Aminet 31/Aminet 31 (1999)(Schatztruhe)[!][Jun 1999].iso/Aminet/docs/misc/jamar.lha/Mar99.txt

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From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= <[e-mail]>

Does anybody has a clue how to realize using truetype fonts on amiga ?

I have ttf-manager tested. It shows the font correct but after saving it, no
program can use this font ??

Any hints ?

Greetinx,
Pearl
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From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= <[e-mail]>

Hello David

Am 09-Mär-99 schrieb David McMinn:

>> no program can use this font ??
>
> I installed the ttflib archive from aminet, and installed a couple of
> fonts using the ttf-manager. But I can't remember if I done anything after
> that but they do work on my system. Maybe you need to run intellifont as
> well, but I'm not sure.
I knew there was something I missed... Intellifont was the right key word !!
Thanx !

>
> What programs are you using, do they work with standard compugraphic
> fonts?
That's another aspect. But what about a driver that make programs using
standard fonts work with tt fonts ??

Regards,
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From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= <[e-mail]>

Hello Chris

Am 27-Feb-99 schrieb Chris Seward:

> Sending the email twice does not make anyone reply quicker ;)
>
Ok.
You are right.
Simply made the same mistake a second time...
Look at the date: my clock is broken and I wanted my message to have the
correct date...

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Subject: [just-amiga] AmigaDos Copy Command

From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>


Interesting this is the first time I've noticed. I don't seem to be able to
copy one full directory to another in amigados, not if it includes sub
directorys of it's own. Bet there's a way, there has to be really.

I want to move certian folders in my Yam draw to my floppy disk, replaceing
and displacing the old ones. In this way I can have my mail all on just a disk
yet also the master on the HD. It will let me answer mail on the other amiga,
which I'm writing this on.

Catch the drift? I don't want to have to use Dopus to copy the files accross.
There must be a way to do it in an executable.

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From: LISAorNICKorMATHEW <[e-mail]>
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From: LISAorNICKorMATHEW <[e-mail]>

Hello

I have just found an address in my Yam address book -
[e-mail]
I sent a mail with the body and subject: send help. The reply was Unknown
command
Can anyone please tell me the right commands to use or tell me how to get
them.
I have email access only.
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Subject: [just-amiga] Cu Amiga - Cinema 4D
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From: Sergio Maiandi <[e-mail]>

Hello everybody

As you probably know on the last CU Amiga CD there was the full
version of the 3d rendering prog Cinema 4D

Unfortunately after the installation i'm asked for a serial code,
which is not written in any part of the cd or of the magazine

Does anyone of you have this code ?

TIA
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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 25-Feb-99 18:58:19, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

>Hi Thomas

>On 25-Feb-99, you wrote:

>>>>  Not working on the miggy is a blessing, believe me. It sucks when it
>>>>  works and it sucks when it doesn't. Working seems to depends on the
>>>>  orientation of the planets, phase of the moon, how you sit in your
>>>>  chair, whether or not you're an odd number of hops to their server and
>>>>  the mood of the support staff :)

>>> 2 choices,

>>> 1) read through what you said and change it to make sense

>> Engage brain -> Reread what I wrote. For those without said brain:

>> Yahoo chat sucks.

>> Simple enough for you?

>nope, now turn on the other half of your brain and read the first sentance

Makes perfect sense to me. If it doesn't to you then tough. What exactly
don't you understand about it? What is there not to understand?

>>> 2) get flamed for the next few weeks

>> By who? You? I'm really quivering in my boots.

>nooooooooo, just most amiga owners, and you know what a stubborn bunch of
>arses we can be ;)

1) Most Amiga owners aren't on Just-Amiga
2) Most Amiga owners on Just-Amiga couldn't care less (why this is going
privately
3) Anyone who flames me gets a slap in the face by an AUP :P

Regards

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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 26-Feb-99 20:09:55, I wrote:

>2) Most Amiga owners on Just-Amiga couldn't care less (why this is going
>privately

Erm, whoops, sorry, wrong address.. *cough*...

/me gets his coat :)

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From: Chris Seward <[e-mail]>


On 10-Aug-98, you wrote:

> For my installed unix-port I would likely do the following:

Sending the email twice does not make anyone reply quicker ;)

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Old games
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From: Chris Seward <[e-mail]>


On 21-Feb-99, you wrote:

> While we're on the topic of games nobody remembers ;], I'll chuck in
"Merv The
> Merciless" =]

MMM, zac mackraken and the alien mind benders...

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From: Chris Seward <[e-mail]>

All,

On 26-Feb-99, you wrote:

>  Confirmed, something's been up with the FTP for a bit too.

If something wasn't up with an aminet ftp site i'd be surely worried,
oh how many times have I tried to upload an issue of AIO to wustl in the
USA and its been full or complaining of something along those lines.

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From: "Terry Davis" <[e-mail]>

Hi
Very basic question from a , not so young as I would like to be,
novice.  I am trying to extract a picture file from a PC formatted
floppy.
Is the MS-Dos set up in the Cross Dos prog the correct way to go.
I assume the MS stands for Microsoft but can't see it written
anywhere.
Thanks.
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From: Chris Seward <[e-mail]>

Is it true that with some telecom in the US, all calls are free but the
catch is you have to listen to a 12 second advert before each call?
anyone got any ideas?! i'll probably get moaned at for mucking up
again :)

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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Terry

> Hi
> Very basic question from a , not so young as I would like to be,
> novice.  I am trying to extract a picture file from a PC formatted
> floppy.

> Is the MS-Dos set up in the Cross Dos prog the correct way to go.
> I assume the MS stands for Microsoft but can't see it written

   Cross dos does indeed read MicroSponge DOS disks. If you only have a
standard lowdensity disk drive in your amiga then you can only read 720k
MS-Dos disks though.

   To use cross dos, you just type "Mount PC0:" in shell, (me thinks.)

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AmigaDos Copy Command
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From: Linus Akesson <[e-mail]>

On 13-Aug-98, Rick Giles ([e-mail]) wrote:
>From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>


>Interesting this is the first time I've noticed. I don't seem to be able to
>copy one full directory to another in amigados, not if it includes sub
>directorys of it's own. Bet there's a way, there has to be really.

>I want to move certian folders in my Yam draw to my floppy disk, replaceing
>and displacing the old ones. In this way I can have my mail all on just a
disk
>yet also the master on the HD. It will let me answer mail on the other amiga,
>which I'm writing this on.

>Catch the drift? I don't want to have to use Dopus to copy the files accross.
>There must be a way to do it in an executable.

Try the 'all' switch:

copy yam/#? df0: all

This will create the necessary subdirectories, and copy all files in them as
well.

> Cool Enough, TTFN!

agh! hate that one. (no reason.)

Linus

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Advert calls? USA
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From: Hilda <[e-mail]>

On 27-Feb-99, Chris Seward is alleged to have said...
>From: Chris Seward <[e-mail]>

>Is it true that with some telecom in the US, all calls are free but the
>catch is you have to listen to a 12 second advert before each call?
>anyone got any ideas?! i'll probably get moaned at for mucking up
>again :)

>Toodle Pip!
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There's a new service doing this. You call and listen to a
series of ads. For every someodd seconds of ads, you get a
certain amount of free long distance. You can "bank" as
much free long distance time as you like. The catch is that
when you make your phone call, if you get an answering machine,
no answer or the line is busy, you have to start over. Your
free air time is not rolled over to your next call.

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From: John <[e-mail]>

Hello Yall,

    I have had a very annoying problem since I have had my *Amiga 4000 03*0,
when I bought it _5 years ago_, I bought it in the context that I would be
able to play a game called *B17* flight sim from the hard drive.  #:)#
simple enough you might say #:)# but alas when I install it to HD it works
fine _untill it gets to the game part then the *cpu* like* SLOWS* WAY
*DOWN_* ????? */PLEASE/* can someone help me to get this exceptional game
working properly, I would be eternaly grateful.

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From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>

It's simply incredible what Linus Akesson wrote on 28-Feb-99:

|>Try the 'all' switch:
|>copy yam/#? df0: all

Thanks, that'll be ideal. There is one slight flaw with this system
though, which I suppose I can fix. Copy will still leave the old
files there which are now redundent, so I suppose I can also use
the same trick first by deleating df0:outgoing all first.

Thanks dude. Sorted.

...the deleting trick works. Unfortunatly it isn't possible to
copy entire directorys still, as I wanted. Not to worry, this
new trick lets me delete everything so I can do it the old way
just fine.

Truely sorted.
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,
>
>    I have had a very annoying problem since I have had my *Amiga 4000
03*0,
> when I bought it _5 years ago_, I bought it in the context that I would be
> able to play a game called *B17* flight sim from the hard drive.  #:)#
> simple enough you might say #:)# but alas when I install it to HD it works
> fine _untill it gets to the game part then the *cpu* like* SLOWS* WAY
> *DOWN_* ????? */PLEASE/* can someone help me to get this exceptional game
> working properly, I would be eternaly grateful.

   Does it slow down like that when you run it from disk? If not, then I
guess it must be something your running in the background. Try booting on
minimum configuration.

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From: [e-mail] (Tim Corringham)

Hi John

> From: John <[e-mail]>
>
> Hello Yall,
>
>     I have had a very annoying problem since I have had my *Amiga 4000 03*0,
> when I bought it _5 years ago_, I bought it in the context that I would be
> able to play a game called *B17* flight sim from the hard drive.  #:)#
> simple enough you might say #:)# but alas when I install it to HD it works
> fine _untill it gets to the game part then the *cpu* like* SLOWS* WAY
> *DOWN_* ????? */PLEASE/* can someone help me to get this exceptional game
> working properly, I would be eternaly grateful.

Try running enforcer - it's possible that the game is doing things
it shouldn't.

  Tim

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Rick

On 13-Aug-98, you wrote:

> Catch the drift? I don't want to have to use Dopus to copy the files
> accross. There must be a way to do it in an executable.

copy work:drawer work2: all

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Terry

On 27-Feb-99, you wrote:

> From: "Terry Davis" <[e-mail]>

> Hi
> Very basic question from a , not so young as I would like to be,
> novice.  I am trying to extract a picture file from a PC formatted
> floppy.

Make sure it is a DD disk, not a HD disk, most amigas only have DD drives
(half the capacity of HD)

> Is the MS-Dos set up in the Cross Dos prog the correct way to go.

Yep, make sure cross-dos is running

> I assume the MS stands for Microsoft but can't see it written
> anywhere.

yep


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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Chris

On 27-Feb-99, you wrote:

> If something wasn't up with an aminet ftp site i'd be surely worried,
> oh how many times have I tried to upload an issue of AIO to wustl in the
> USA and its been full or complaining of something along those lines.

why not up it to one of the mirrors, therse are all uploaded to the main
site anyway

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Thomas

On 26-Feb-99, you wrote:

>>>>>   Not working on the miggy is a blessing, believe me. It sucks when
it
>>>>>   works and it sucks when it doesn't. Working seems to depends on the
>>>>>   orientation of the planets, phase of the moon, how you sit in your
>>>>>   chair, whether or not you're an odd number of hops to their server
>>>>>   and the mood of the support staff :)

> Makes perfect sense to me. If it doesn't to you then tough. What exactly
> don't you understand about it? What is there not to understand?

You're saying that when you're working on your pc, you are happier?

> 1) Most Amiga owners aren't on Just-Amiga

Correct, but we prefer it when we are

> 3) Anyone who flames me gets a slap in the face by an AUP :P

AUP?

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Hi Thomas

On 27-Feb-99, you wrote:

> Erm, whoops, sorry, wrong address.. *cough*...

> Tom (18 today :)

Bit early to start losing your mind ..... =)

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Hi

On 28-Feb-99 16:34:16, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

>You're saying that when you're working on your pc, you are happier?

You what? No. I said Yahoo Chat is crap, and rarely works no matter what you
are using. Furrfu

>> 1) Most Amiga owners aren't on Just-Amiga

>Correct, but we prefer it when we are

We prefer it when we are on Just Amiga? heh, if you say so.

>> 3) Anyone who flames me gets a slap in the face by an AUP :P

>AUP?

Acceptable Use Policy, as anyone who is on the 'net should know, because
ISP's usually have pretty extensive ones they show you before you sign up.

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Thomas

On 28-Feb-99, you wrote:

>> You're saying that when you're working on your pc, you are happier?

> You what? No. I said Yahoo Chat is crap, and rarely works no matter what
> you are using. Furrfu

Well what did you mean when you said,

"Not working on the miggy is a blessing, believe me."

???

>> Correct, but we prefer it when we are

> We prefer it when we are on Just Amiga? heh, if you say so.

Does anyone else here like using just their amiga??

>> AUP?

> Acceptable Use Policy, as anyone who is on the 'net should know, because
> ISP's usually have pretty extensive ones they show you before you sign
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Enterprise didn't have one, Demon didn't have one, and FreeServe don't have
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From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>

It's simply incredible what Matthew O'Neill wrote on 01-Mar-99:

|>copy work:drawer work2: all

Not on my computer, mister. That just copys all the contents of
work:draw to work2:, but I don't want that at all.

I have a heap of draws and files in work: and only want draw and
it's contents to be copyed to work2:. Using the command you suggest
it will do that to the contents but not the draw too.
 Hence all the files of draw are loose in work2:.

The only way around it I guess is to make a dir first and then
copy 'all' to that. I wouldn't mention it except this seems a bit
ineloquent next to other amigados commands.

And what I'd give for a 'move' command, just like dopus has.

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Hello Andrew,

 #Does it slow down like that when you run it from disk? If not, then I#
#guess it must be something your running in the background. Try booting on#
#minimum configuration.#

Yes it also run's slow off disk :(, I thought it might be a problem with the
cpu??  Thanx for your help :)


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Hello Tim,

#Try running enforcer - it's possible that the game is doing things#
#it shouldn't.#

What is enforcer and how do I get it :) thank you for your reply.

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From: Wayne Pyrah <[e-mail]>

Hi Rick

On 01-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>
>
> It's simply incredible what Matthew O'Neill wrote on 01-Mar-99:
>
> |>copy work:drawer work2: all
>
> Not on my computer, mister. That just copys all the contents of
> work:draw to work2:, but I don't want that at all.
>
> I have a heap of draws and files in work: and only want draw and
> it's contents to be copyed to work2:. Using the command you suggest
> it will do that to the contents but not the draw too.
> Hence all the files of draw are loose in work2:.
>
> The only way around it I guess is to make a dir first and then
> copy 'all' to that. I wouldn't mention it except this seems a bit
> ineloquent next to other amigados commands.

Why not try filemaster or directory opus.  If you want a copy of filemaster I can email you it if you like.  It is a good simple program for moving files around etc.

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Hello Rick

On 01-Mar-99, Rick Giles wrote:

> |>copy work:drawer work2: all
> Not on my computer, mister. That just copys all the contents of
> work:draw to work2:, but I don't want that at all.
> I have a heap of draws and files in work: and only want draw and
> it's contents to be copyed to work2:. Using the command you suggest
> it will do that to the contents but not the draw too.
> Hence all the files of draw are loose in work2:.

copy work:drawer#? work2: all
copy work:drawer work2:drawer all

`Copy' can either copy the directory entry itself, or with the second one
can create a new drawer itself (Note there is no "/" on the end).

> And what I'd give for a 'move' command, just like dopus has.

Umm.. if noone else on the list minds?  I've attached a Move command.  This
is also *very* useful as it'll wildcard renaming - e.g. "Rename BAD_#? #?"
renames bad_42d95c22.mo0 to 42d95c22.mo0.

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From: "Andy Kinsella" <[e-mail]>

Rick Giles said this...

> From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>
>
> It's simply incredible what Matthew O'Neill wrote on 01-Mar-99:
>
> |>copy work:drawer work2: all
>
> Not on my computer, mister. That just copys all the contents of
> work:draw to work2:, but I don't want that at all.
>
> I have a heap of draws and files in work: and only want draw and
> it's contents to be copyed to work2:. Using the command you suggest
> it will do that to the contents but not the draw too.
>  Hence all the files of draw are loose in work2:.

try "copy work:drawer#? work2: all"

That will work. I just tried it meself to make sure.

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From: Srdan Kvrgic <[e-mail]>

Hello Thomas

On 28-Feb-99, you wrote:

> From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

> Hi

> On 28-Feb-99 16:34:16, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

>> You're saying that when you're working on your pc, you are happier?

> You what? No. I said Yahoo Chat is crap, and rarely works no matter what
> you are using. Furrfu

IMHO, webchats suck. No point in arguing about it...

>>> 3) Anyone who flames me gets a slap in the face by an AUP :P

>> AUP?

> Acceptable Use Policy, as anyone who is on the 'net should know, because
> ISP's usually have pretty extensive ones they show you before you sign up.

Oh, you mean than 20k html document you scoll to the bottom of and press
"I Agree"? You mean they can actually be of some use?!? =O

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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 28-Feb-99 22:56:40, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

>Hi Thomas

>On 28-Feb-99, you wrote:

>>> You're saying that when you're working on your pc, you are happier?

>> You what? No. I said Yahoo Chat is crap, and rarely works no matter what
>> you are using. Furrfu

>Well what did you mean when you said,

>"Not working on the miggy is a blessing, believe me."

>???

I actually got Yahoo chat working once, and it was crap. The fact that it
doesn't work at all on the miggy is a blessing. Understand? If not, feel
free to insert foot in mouth.

>>> Correct, but we prefer it when we are

>> We prefer it when we are on Just Amiga? heh, if you say so.

>Does anyone else here like using just their amiga??

Erm, WTF are you wibbling about? :) I'm talking about the ML that happens to
be called Just Amiga :)

>>> AUP?

>> Acceptable Use Policy, as anyone who is on the 'net should know, because
>> ISP's usually have pretty extensive ones they show you before you sign
>up.

>Enterprise didn't have one, Demon didn't have one, and FreeServe don't have
>one. Never seen one before in my life.

<sigh> Are you really trying to be dim, or were you just born that way?
Demon have an AUP, FreeServe have an AUP, ClaraNet have an AUP, in fact,
pretty much every ISP on earth have an AUP! How else can ISP's throw off
spammers etc without getting sued?

Regards

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From: Loki <[e-mail]>

Hello Thomas
     Hiya, Thomas... ,on 01-Mar-99 you mailed me about: [just-amiga] Re: Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!! So I`ma reply`in...

[=>> Enterprise didn't have one, Demon didn't have one, and FreeServe don't
[=>> have one. Never seen one before in my life.
[=>
[=> <sigh> Are you really trying to be dim, or were you just born that way?
[=> Demon have an AUP, FreeServe have an AUP, ClaraNet have an AUP, in fact,
[=> pretty much every ISP on earth have an AUP! How else can ISP's throw off
[=> spammers etc without getting sued?

Erm,. he`s right ma`lado..
FreeServe have one Demon Have one,.. EVERYONE has one these days!!!!
Not that anyone ever bloody reads em, :) ... but you see em EVERYWHERE!
I`m sure most people just drag the scroll bar to the bottom of the page
and hit the Accept button. :)))
Although I did read the Freeserve one,.. wanted to see if there was anything
about having more than one account open,. and there aint :) ehehehe!
(Just in case they decided they would like to close it down for no reason :))
Took me half an hour to trudge thru it! Could hardly keep myself from
falling asleep,.. then I would close my eyes and realise,. open em and lose
track of where I was, then end up further back up the page, looking for it :)
That sodding thing as about 20K! :)

[=> Regards
[=>
[=> Tom
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,
> #Does it slow down like that when you run it from disk? If not, then I#
> #guess it must be something your running in the background. Try booting
on#
> #minimum configuration.#
>
> Yes it also run's slow off disk :(, I thought it might be a problem with
the
> cpu??  Thanx for your help :)

   Hmmm, what does it run like on ther Amigas? It may just be that the games
too detailed for your CPU to handel. Turn the detail down in the options, or
buy a processor upgrade :)

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Loki

On 01-Mar-99, you wrote:

> [=>> Enterprise didn't have one, Demon didn't have one, and FreeServe
don't
> [=>> have one. Never seen one before in my life. [=>

> [=> <sigh> Are you really trying to be dim, or were you just born that
way?

Nah, your lessons seem to be working fine :P

> [=> Demon have an AUP, FreeServe have an AUP, ClaraNet have an AUP, in
> fact, [=> pretty much every ISP on earth have an AUP! How else can ISP's
> throw off [=> spammers etc without getting sued?

(hums the spam song) spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam spam, I DON'T
LIKE SPAM!!!

egg and spam
sausage and spam
egg bacon and spam
spam and chips
spam chips sausage and spam
spam
spam spma spam spam and spam....

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Thomas

On 01-Mar-99, you wrote:

>> Well what did you mean when you said,

>> "Not working on the miggy is a blessing, believe me."

> I actually got Yahoo chat working once, and it was crap. The fact that it
> doesn't work at all on the miggy is a blessing. Understand? If not, feel
> free to insert foot in mouth.

Well whay didn't you say so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That clears everything up :) both feet firmly on the ground

>> Does anyone else here like using just their amiga??

> Erm, WTF are you wibbling about? :) I'm talking about the ML that happens
> to be called Just Amiga :)

I was talking about just using my amiga

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From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>

It's simply incredible what Andy Kinsella wrote on 02-Mar-99:

|>> |>copy work:drawer work2: all
|>try "copy work:drawer#? work2: all"

|>That will work. I just tried it meself to make sure.

Right you are! A little weird that though, the only difference is
the wildcards and suddenly a directory is created also.

So she works, th#?ks muchly.

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From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>

It's simply incredible what Neil Williams wrote on 02-Mar-99:

|>> And what I'd give for a 'move' command, just like dopus has.
|>Umm.. if noone else on the list minds?  I've attached a Move command.  This
|>is also *very* useful as it'll wildcard renaming - e.g. "Rename BAD_#? #?"
|>renames bad_42d95c22.mo0 to 42d95c22.mo0.

Thanks for that good information, that 'move' works like a charm!

And I sure do see how this raname trick will be of great benifit,
thanks for throwing that in! It's great to learn these little tricks.

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From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>


 Hold the phone, it's all fixed.

I was asking for the mail archive command but it turns out that it works the
way stated in the docs and the problem I had was that it did this before it
was able to do what it had to do to the message...

Things are fine, ignore orig mssg.

                  Cool Enough, TTFN!!


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Date: 03 Mar 99 08:52:37 +0000
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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 01-Mar-99 20:13:08, Srdan Kvrgic wrote:

> Hello Thomas

> On 28-Feb-99, you wrote:

>> On 28-Feb-99 16:34:16, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

>>> You're saying that when you're working on your pc, you are happier?

>> You what? No. I said Yahoo Chat is crap, and rarely works no matter
>> what you are using. Furrfu

> IMHO, webchats suck. No point in arguing about it...

Not IYHO, it's fact :)

>>>> 3) Anyone who flames me gets a slap in the face by an AUP :P

>>> AUP?

>> Acceptable Use Policy, as anyone who is on the 'net should know,
>> because ISP's usually have pretty extensive ones they show you before
>> you sign up.

> Oh, you mean than 20k html document you scoll to the bottom of and press
> "I Agree"?

Yes, that. You are actually supposed to read it first though :)

> You mean they can actually be of some use?!? =O

How else can they deal with spammers without getting sued for breach of
contract?

Regards

Tom
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From: "95LHSC" <[e-mail]>

This is for Andrew Crowe, but his EMail doesn`t seem to work....

> To: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: 4ply adaptor
> Date: 03 March 1999 18:08
>
> Hi,
>  I tested out your program. The joystick on the left worked fine, except
> the
> FIRE button didn`t work. On the right, only up and down worked. Oh, Q
> worked, and sent me back to Workbench!
>
>  Are you the same author of Wizards of Odd? It`s the same group anyway.
> It`s
> a cool game. I reviewed it for you in AIO.
>
>  If you do get the joystick routines to work, could you send me the
source?
> I think it is an AMOS program. Am I right?
>
> Talk soon,
>
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From: "Terry Davis" <[e-mail]>

Thank you Andrew and Mathew for your replies to my question.
Both very helpfull,just what I needed.
Thanks again.
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From: ken <[e-mail]>

Did aminet US die again ? The UK connection works, and I was on the US site
earlier this am.

This is what I got from last access there today.

<HTML><HEAD>
<TITLE>403 Forbidden</TITLE>
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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

ken <[e-mail]> wrote:
> From: ken <[e-mail]>
>
> Did aminet US die again ?

I couldn't get the latest upload list from it today.  It's probably
hosed.

-Stephen


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From: John <[e-mail]>

Hello Andrew,

   # Hmmm, what does it run like on ther Amigas? It may just be that the
games#
#too detailed for your CPU to handel. Turn the detail down in the options,
or#
#buy a processor upgrade :)#

    Hello againe :) thanx for you assistance, I am now running an amiga 4000
030 with a 030 cpu, the game runs fine on my old A500 both on HD and off
disk, but for some reason my faster machine slows down with this game???.

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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

>   # Hmmm, what does it run like on ther Amigas? It may just be that the
> games#
> #too detailed for your CPU to handel. Turn the detail down in the options,
> or#
> #buy a processor upgrade :)#

>    Hello againe :) thanx for you assistance, I am now running an amiga
4000
> 030 with a 030 cpu, the game runs fine on my old A500 both on HD and off
> disk, but for some reason my faster machine slows down with this game???.

   I see. Well, it looks like its just baddly written. What you could do is
hold down both mouse buttons on boot for the early startup options, go to
boot options and disable CPU cache. This might help.


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From: Michael Jaccoud <[e-mail]>

Hello

You knew it, you think you never need a library, and don't
install it the HD... And when you need it som time later, it's
not possible to find it again :)))

WHERE CAN I FIND THE MEDPLAYER.LIBRARY?!

Thank you in advance! :)

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From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>


 Is it possible to view amigaguides on a PC or Mac??

Perhaps one way would be to convert them to html format, I think I've seen
that mentioned before.

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From: Loki <[e-mail]>

Hello LISAorNICKorMATHEW
     Hiya, LISAorNICKorMATHEW... ,on 06-Mar-99 you mailed me about: [just-amiga] Aminet by email! So I`ma reply`in...

[=> From: LISAorNICKorMATHEW <[e-mail]>
[=>
[=>
[=> Hello
[=>
[=> I have just found an address in my Yam address book -
[=> [e-mail]
[=> I sent a mail with the body and subject: send help. The reply was Unknown
[=> command
[=> Can anyone please tell me the right commands to use or tell me how to get
[=> them.
[=> I have email access only.
[=> Thankyou
[=> -Lisa

Could try using AFM3 ?
Mail me if you want it :)

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From: John <[e-mail]>

Hello Andrew,

    Thank you again :)
#I see. Well, it looks like its just baddly written. What you could do is#
#hold down both mouse buttons on boot for the early startup options, go to#
#boot options and disable CPU cache. This might help.#

I did indeed try this method and wrote into scripts_ degraders_ ect but to
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AGA version :)).  I *really *do appreciate your help as I am the only person
in our whole city that knows about Amiga's

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From: John <[e-mail]>

Hello Andrew,

    Thank you again :)
#I see. Well, it looks like its just baddly written. What you could do is#
#hold down both mouse buttons on boot for the early startup options, go to#
#boot options and disable CPU cache. This might help.#

I did indeed try this method and wrote into scripts_ degraders_ ect but to
no success, maybe I just need to goto the programmer and see if he made a
AGA version :)).  I *really *do appreciate your help as I am the only person
in our whole city that knows about Amiga's

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From: [e-mail]


> LISAorNICKorMATHEW <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>I have just found an address in my Yam address book -
>[e-mail]
>I sent a mail with the body and subject: send help. The reply was Unknown
>command
>Can anyone please tell me the right commands to use or tell me how to get
>them.
>I have email access only.

Try with only "help" as body text.

    Magnus

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If you own an Amiga web site, anything to do with the amiga, amiga
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It will be put in the new amiga website database in AIO each month
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Let us know your ideas on the recent news about clickBOOM and the
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From: Linus Akesson <[e-mail]>

On 04-Mar-99, Andrew Crowe ([e-mail]) wrote:

>Why make good software, when people will buy bad.
>-- Bill Gates

Wow! Did he really say that or is it just a stupid joke?

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From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>

It's simply incredible what LISAorNICKorMATHEW wrote on 06-Mar-99:

Timaru, that's rare. I'm in Christchurch, basicly.

|>I have just found an address in my Yam address book -
|>[e-mail]

I think it's ment to be a way to get the aminet files via email, yes.
I couldn't make it work so I've given up and deleted it. I've got
ftp and that's a bit easyer and has some useful features.

|>I have email access only.

I just wanted to tell you/yous, since your from Timaru, that there
is a way to get web pages when you have only email access. It hasn't
worked for months but I tryed it again and looks like it's fixed.

Address: [e-mail]
Subject: (leave blank)
Body command for normal pages: get URL
Body command for Alta Vista searches: SEARCH ALTAVISTA keywords and/or
phrases
Body command for Infoseek searches: SEARCH INFOSEEK keywords
Body command for Yahoo searches: SEARCH YAHOO keywords
Pages are usually returned with thirty minutes or so.
Word wrap is ok.
There is a limit of approximately forty accesses per week. If you exceed
this then further accesses are prohibited for a week.

Eg Get http://www.tv3.co.nz/frame.asp?page=programme

 And it'll return the page to you in mail. Some pages don't work,
but only few.

Cool huh? I use it all the time, or I used to.


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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

>> Why make good software, when people will buy bad.
>> -- Bill Gates
>
> Wow! Did he really say that or is it just a stupid joke?

   Do you think that Bill would make an admition like that??

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From: LISAorNICKorMATHEW <[e-mail]>


Hello

I have just found an address in my Yam address book -
[e-mail]
I sent a mail with the body and subject: send help. The reply was Unknown
command
Can anyone please tell me the right commands to use or tell me how to get
them.
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On Fri, 05 Mar 1999 20:42:15 +1100, in <[e-mail]>
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> From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>
>
>
>  Is it possible to view amigaguides on a PC or Mac??
>

Aminet -

winguide.lha  misc/emu 194K  52+Win95 prog to display AmigaGuide Files.

should do the trick.


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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Michael Jaccoud <[e-mail]> wrote:
> WHERE CAN I FIND THE MEDPLAYER.LIBRARY?!

Don't shout, you're hurting my ears.

Go to your fave Aminet mirror and get mus/play/Swomp.lha.  It's a
MED/OctaMED player by moi; the libs are in the archive.

> Thank you in advance! :)

You're welcome :-)

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Subject: [just-amiga] NEWS: Petro Tyschtschenko interviewed in AIO 22

From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>

AIO news update 6.3.99
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Amiga Information Online have secured an interview with *Petro*
*Tyschtschenko*

This interview asks Petro some of the questions that many people
would like to know and details about what is going to happen to
the two parts of Amiga (Int&Inc)

We asked him about supplying top console/pc companies with the
new developer systems and other plans by Gateway. A FAQ of will
Amiga Inc. be advertising the Amiga when it is born was answered
and many other interesting questions where asked.

Make sure you don't miss AIO issue 22 which is available *22nd*
*March 1999* from :-

*http://www.amiga1.demon.co.uk/aio/*
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Hi one and all,
       Can you go forth and look at my web pages :)
       I have added some and I need some feed back
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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Chris

On 06-Mar-99, you wrote:

> We asked him about supplying top console/pc companies with the
> new developer systems and other plans by Gateway. A FAQ of will
> Amiga Inc. be advertising the Amiga when it is born was answered
> and many other interesting questions where asked.

I can't wait till then, can't you just tell us what multimillion pound tv
adverts we'll see right now? I little sneeky peeky at what the next AIO
will hold?

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---Chris Seward <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Amiga Information Online have secured an interview with *Petro*
> *Tyschtschenko*
>
> This interview asks Petro some of the questions that many people
> would like to know and details about what is going to happen to
> the two parts of Amiga (Int&Inc)

Who do you plan on interviewing next and who decides which questions
to ask ???

If we know in advance who the interview is with can we submit
questions ourselves and you pick say the best 20 questions or so..  ???

Many Thanks For All !!!!
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From: Chris Seward <[e-mail]>

Hi,

When I had my old internet account if my computer crashed and I had
to reset I could load up Miami and press connect and instead of
resetting the modem and trying to go online it would just grab the
IP and DNS etc servers so I wasn't logged off and this saved me
money, now with my new account I have different settings and so if
I reset and load up miami it trys to hang the modem and go online
again so I have to disconnect and reconnect costing me alot more.

Anyone know how to get back to how it was? its very useful because
even with 32mb the computer burns alot of power using many i'net
apps :) any help gladly welcomed.

Toodle Pip!
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From: [e-mail] (Neil Williams)

Hi Chris,
 In a message dated 07 Mar 99 Chris wrote to All:

 CS> When I had my old internet account if my computer crashed and I had to
 CS> reset I could load up Miami and press connect and instead of
 CS> resetting the modem and trying to go online it would just grab the IP

 CS> Anyone know how to get back to how it was? its very useful because even
 CS> with 32mb the computer burns alot of power using many i'net
 CS> apps :) any help gladly welcomed.

Enable Quick Reconnect on the PPP page.

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From: Pat Kushko <[e-mail]>

On Sun, 7 Mar 1999, Chris Seward wrote:

> From: Chris Seward <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi,
>
> When I had my old internet account if my computer crashed and I had
> to reset I could load up Miami and press connect and instead of
> resetting the modem and trying to go online it would just grab the
> IP and DNS etc servers so I wasn't logged off and this saved me
> money, now with my new account I have different settings and so if
> I reset and load up miami it trys to hang the modem and go online
> again so I have to disconnect and reconnect costing me alot more.
>
> Anyone know how to get back to how it was? its very useful because
> even with 32mb the computer burns alot of power using many i'net
> apps :) any help gladly welcomed.

Not sure you can get this back if it's broken or altered the settings in
such as way that it longer can. The key items are under the PPP menu in
the Miami interface, under the item/feature 'Quick Reconnect' which can
be set for Ram (meaning from the stored info in memory) or file (as per
your software settings or disabled. Keep in mind that if the information
within your memory has been trashed by an irrant program, there can be no
quick reconnect. It seems that either this stored information is bigger
or more easily stomped on with new versions of maimi. My re-connects are 50%
lucky if it's just unrelated software that crashes.
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From: John <[e-mail]>

Hello Anyone

    Is there an installable version of *java that WORKS??* that we can use
on amiga, looks to ma tho most sites aare now useing java.  Also, I was
wondering if '/Thepalace .com/' are going to ever be Amiga
compatable????????  thanx ppl :))

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From: [e-mail] (Tim Corringham)

Hi John

> From: John <[e-mail]>
>
> Hello Anyone
>
>     Is there an installable version of *java that WORKS??* that we can use
> on amiga, looks to ma tho most sites aare now useing java.  Also, I was
> wondering if '/Thepalace .com/' are going to ever be Amiga
> compatable????????  thanx ppl :))

It depends whether you want to use Java as a standalone programming
environment, or as a way of running applets within a browser.

If the former, then guavac and kaffe are usable.

If the latter, then no Amiga browsers support Java yet.

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From: ken <[e-mail]>

I ran across some mp3 files today. I have aminet sets 1-7, and I've searched
for mpg, and mp3, but so far I haven't a simple doc file on any of the stuff
to explain how to set any of the stuff up to play an mpg or mp3 file.

I have an a3k w/25 mhz. Can this even be done ? I've converted mpg video and
viewed a few mpg video files out of the box without splitting the audio out.

But I've actually never even tried to fire up an mp3/mpg audio file.


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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

> I ran across some mp3 files today. I have aminet sets 1-7, and I've
searched
> for mpg, and mp3, but so far I haven't a simple doc file on any of the
stuff
> to explain how to set any of the stuff up to play an mpg or mp3 file.
>
> I have an a3k w/25 mhz. Can this even be done ? I've converted mpg video
and
> viewed a few mpg video files out of the box without splitting the audio
out.
>
> But I've actually never even tried to fire up an mp3/mpg audio file.

   Well, MP3s are simply compressed audio (eg. music CD's). You can play
them with MPEGA or AmigaAMP. As for whether you Amiga can handel it, no. My
A1200 040/25mhz can't play MP3 at full speed w/ a 68k player, so your 030
A3K will have even more trouble. (My PPC MP3 player works at full quality
though ;)

   If you want to play MP3s on your amiga, then you'll have to get that MP3
hardware decoder, whats it called again? (I thinks its 'MPEGit' or sommin)

Or of corce, a PPC board ;)  (Aparently an 060/50 can just about do it too)

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From: Larry Miller <[e-mail]>

Hello Andrew

On 08-Mar-99, you wrote:


>   Well, MP3s are simply compressed audio (eg. music CD's). You can play
> them with MPEGA or AmigaAMP. As for whether you Amiga can handel it, no.
My
> A1200 040/25mhz can't play MP3 at full speed w/ a 68k player, so your 030
> A3K will have even more trouble. (My PPC MP3 player works at full quality
> though ;)
>
>   If you want to play MP3s on your amiga, then you'll have to get that MP3
> hardware decoder, whats it called again? (I thinks its 'MPEGit' or sommin)
>
> Or of corce, a PPC board ;)  (Aparently an 060/50 can just about do it
too)
>
> See ya.

I don't know about an A3000 @ 25mhz but I do know that an 040 /40 has no
trouble at all playing mp3's.  I now have an 060/50 and it of course it's a
lot better.

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From: ken <[e-mail]>

>> I ran across some mp3 files today. I have aminet sets 1-7, and I've

>   Well, MP3s are simply compressed audio (eg. music CD's). You can play
>them with MPEGA or AmigaAMP. As for whether you Amiga can handel it, no. My

Well thats good to know, I don't mind converting, I only have 2 mp3's
anyways and my curiosity isn't that great..


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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

John <[e-mail]> wrote:
>    Is there an installable version of *java that WORKS??* that we can use
> on amiga, looks to ma tho most sites aare now useing java.

Most sites use JavaScript, not Java.  The well-designed ones are still
perfectly usable with JavaScript turned off.  AWeb-II 3.something
(the latest version) does JavaScript okay, if you really want it.

As for full-blown Java: IMNSHO there's not much chance that it'll
appear in Amiga browsers any time soon.  FWIW, I tend to find that
Web sites reliant on Java aren't generally worth visiting anyway.
They tend to be corporate sites, put together by paranoid webmasters
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From: ken <[e-mail]>

>I don't know about an A3000 @ 25mhz but I do know that an 040 /40 has no
>trouble at all playing mp3's.  I now have an 060/50 and it of course it's a
>lot better.

Well fiddlin with a few mpg movies and splitmpg, I went and ran the split
audio thru mpega, if you can recall what a Wa Wa pedal does to a guitar,
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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello ken,

On 08-Mar-99, ken wrote:
> From: ken <[e-mail]>
>
> I ran across some mp3 files today. I have aminet sets 1-7, and I've
> searched for mpg, and mp3, but so far I haven't a simple doc file on
> any of the stuff to explain how to set any of the stuff up to play an
> mpg or mp3 file.
>
> I have an a3k w/25 mhz. Can this even be done ? I've converted mpg
> video and viewed a few mpg video files out of the box without
splitting
> the audio out.
>
> But I've actually never even tried to fire up an mp3/mpg audio file.
>

Try songplayer, it works pretty well on my 040/40 and is for 68020+.

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From: "95LHSC" <[e-mail]>

Hi,
 the u d l & r works fine on both. but neither fires buttons work, and
nothing changes at the bottom.

I had problems sending it to you again, this is the message i recieved:
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From: Jonathan Combe <[e-mail]>






---Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= <[e-mail]>
>
> Does anybody has a clue how to realize using truetype fonts on amiga ?
>
> I have ttf-manager tested. It shows the font correct but after
saving it, no
> program can use this font ??
>
> Any hints ?
>
> Greetinx,
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There is a program which will convert TrueType fonts to Compugraphic
fonts. It was on an AF coverdisk a couple of years ago but I can't
remember what it's called. I have used it to convert True Type fonts
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From: John <[e-mail]>

Hello Stephen

    Thanx :))

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Hello Tim

    Thanx :))

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From: "David McMinn" <[e-mail]>

On 10 Aug 98, at 4:03, Sven Dröge wrote:

> Does anybody has a clue how to realize using truetype fonts on amiga ?
>
> I have ttf-manager tested. It shows the font correct but after saving it,
> no program can use this font ??

 I installed the ttflib archive from aminet, and installed a couple of fonts
using the ttf-manager. But I can't remember if I done anything after that but
they do work on my system. Maybe you need to run intellifont as well, but I'm
not sure.

 What programs are you using, do they work with standard compugraphic fonts?


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From: ken <[e-mail]>

>Try songplayer, it works pretty well on my 040/40 and is for 68020+.

>SongPlayer.lha     mus/play   295K   2 Cool and powerfull audio player
>V1.53 68020+

Available on Aminet set 7. Thanks. It needs to have it's description modified
on aminet if it wants to get some exposure. I used mp3 mpg, and mpeg and it
doesn't show under any of those searches. I have no idea what the above
searches will result on aminet maybe it has been changed.

Since it did come out new on 7D, I'd suspect the author may be scratching his
head as to why it's not getting any use..

Actually I found reference to it on set 5 and set 6 using the songplay search
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From: BOURMAULT Philippe <[e-mail]>


Hi,

I have some problems using Shapeshifter,
it works fine but I'm not able to read Mac floppy disks.

Before, I had a DD internal floppy, and it doesn't work with DD disks.
Now, I have a HD internal floppy, and it doesn't work either with DD disks
nor with HD disks.

Could someone help me ?
Is there a special way to configure Shapeshifter in order to recognize Mac
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From: Marco B. <[e-mail]>


Hi Everybody,


>   If you want to play MP3s on your amiga, then you'll have to get that MP3
>hardware decoder, whats it called again? (I thinks its 'MPEGit' or sommin)

Can you give me other informations about this hardware??
Cost, installation, ...??

TXS


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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello Sven,

On 09-Aug-98, Sven Dröge wrote:
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>
> Does anybody has a clue how to realize using truetype fonts on amiga
?
>
> I have ttf-manager tested. It shows the font correct but after saving
> it, no program can use this font ??
>
> Any hints ?
>

Did you install ttflib from Aminet?

ttflib.lha         util/libs  227K   9 Ttf.library v0.7.8 truetype font
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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello ken,

On 09-Mar-99, ken wrote:
> From: ken <[e-mail]>
>
>> Try songplayer, it works pretty well on my 040/40 and is for 68020+.
>
>> SongPlayer.lha     mus/play   295K   2 Cool and powerfull audio
player
>> V1.53 68020+
>
> Available on Aminet set 7. Thanks. It needs to have it's description
> modified on aminet if it wants to get some exposure. I used mp3 mpg,
> and mpeg and it doesn't show under any of those searches. I have no
> idea what the above searches will result on aminet maybe it has been
> changed.
>
> Since it did come out new on 7D, I'd suspect the author may be
> scratching his head as to why it's not getting any use..
>
> Actually I found reference to it on set 5 and set 6 using the
songplay
> search option.

    One thing you didn't say was if it worked allright on your system.
Also because of what you said about the author, I decided to read the
guide and sure enough this is giftware and I have not sent him anything
for this fine player. ;-( Thanks for making me realize I had not done
my duty .

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From: Richard Griffith <[e-mail]>

On 09-Aug-98, Sven Dröge wrote:
> Does anybody has a clue how to realize using truetype fonts on amiga ?
I might ;)

> I have ttf-manager tested. It shows the font correct but after saving it,
> no program can use this font ??
>
> Any hints ?

The fact that you can see the font in ttfmanager (assuming that
is in the preview) shows the library itself is installed correctly.

Did you save (install) to part of your FONTS: assignment? By default
this is sys:fonts. You can install to any drawer, even if it isn't
on the fonts: path, but the drawer needs to be part of the fonts:
assign for most purposes.

Are the truetype outlines still available? Unlike Intellifont,
ttfmanager references the outlines where they are when you install
and does not copy them anywhere.

If neither of these help, let me know. I can assure you that they
really do work!

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From: ken <[e-mail]>

I hit delete instead of reply. so this is meant for one, but didn't catch his
name or email addy.

re: songplay, I had 2 mp3 talk files. This songplay thing is great on an A3k.
It also has more sound formats than anything else I've run across.


And like I said earlier, sound isn't a high priority for me with the ami, so
this is most likely a one shot deal for me.
I was just curious what these mp3's had to say.


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From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= <[e-mail]>

Hello Richard

Am 10-Mär-99 schrieb Richard Griffith:

>
> The fact that you can see the font in ttfmanager (assuming that
> is in the preview) shows the library itself is installed correctly.
Right !!
>
>
> If neither of these help, let me know. I can assure you that they
> really do work!
>
Don't kill me, but it seems that I wasn't aware of the correct task of
TTF-Manager.
I thought it would make the fonts usable for ALL programs, not only for
compugraphic compatible fonts.
So everything works correct...
Sorry for my BIG mistake...

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From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= <[e-mail]>

Hello Richard

Am 10-Mär-99 schrieb Richard Griffith:
>
> You should not need to use Intellifont to make anything work in
> ttf.library. ttfmanager takes care of installation, creating the
> .font and .otag files that form the interface between programs
> and the font engine.
Ok, I was wrong again...

> The TT fonts should work with any program, as the diskfont.library
> handles calling ttf.library, and creating 'normal' fonts in memory
> as needed. No special awareness of the source of the font is needed
> for most applications.
How is that realized, that diskfont.lib calls ttf.library without a patch
(maybe this is just another annoying question of mine...)
>
> Another thing to check, if you are still having troubles, are you
> running any sort of font cache, i.e. any patches to speed up the
> system font list? Such caches may need to be refreshed to recognize
> new fonts in the system, TT's included.
I did that (checking for caches) and updated these.
Now it works sometimes.
Look at the system font-preferences. There are three different fonts to
choose. It's interesting but I can only choose all fonts at the third font
requester. At the first two ones, there are many font missing in the list.
Perhaps you know why ????

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> > What programs are you using, do they work with standard compugraphic
> > fonts?
> That's another aspect. But what about a driver that make programs using
> standard fonts work with tt fonts ??

 If your programs only work with standard fonts then you need to use
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From: Richard Griffith <[e-mail]>

On 09-Aug-98, Sven Dröge wrote:

>> >> no program can use this font ??
>>
>>  I installed the ttflib archive from aminet, and installed a couple of
...

> I knew there was something I missed... Intellifont was the right key word
> !! Thanx !

You should not need to use Intellifont to make anything work in
ttf.library. ttfmanager takes care of installation, creating the
.font and .otag files that form the interface between programs
and the font engine.

>> What programs are you using, do they work with standard compugraphic
>> fonts?
> That's another aspect. But what about a driver that make programs using
> standard fonts work with tt fonts ??

The TT fonts should work with any program, as the diskfont.library
handles calling ttf.library, and creating 'normal' fonts in memory
as needed. No special awareness of the source of the font is needed
for most applications.

Another thing to check, if you are still having troubles, are you
running any sort of font cache, i.e. any patches to speed up the
system font list? Such caches may need to be refreshed to recognize
new fonts in the system, TT's included.

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From: cbminfo <[e-mail]>

I'd say this one of mine has seen better days. I'm under the imoression, from
all the hat, and the smell of cooking chips, plus the fact that it won't allow
more than 1 scsi 100 meg drive, and the pioneer cd on it, and hdtools can't
even find any scsi devices at the moment that it's most definitely something
serious about to fry.

Since before it went this far, it ate a 1.3 gig HD, I suspect it may be the
controller. It was creating bad sectors daily on that drive.

So for starters I'd like to know if anyone has an old a3k in pieces they may
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From: Colin Wenzel <[e-mail]>

On 10-Mar-99, Marco B. wrote:
>From: Marco B. <[e-mail]>
>Hi Everybody,

>>   If you want to play MP3s on your amiga, then you'll have to get that MP3
>>hardware decoder, whats it called again? (I thinks its 'MPEGit' or sommin)

>Can you give me other informations about this hardware??
>Cost, installation, ...??
>TXS
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Huh ????  - Say what ..... ?

Just get  'MPEGA'   &   'MPEGA-GUI'    from aminet, it will play MP3's
real peachey....

I just hope you have at least an 030/40   if not, you will have to crank
the maximum frequency settings down a bit, around 22Khz...

You might have to kick it into mono too....   try it & see, it's free !!!
To have an 040 or better would be better...

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Andrew

On 08-Mar-99, you wrote:

>   Well, MP3s are simply compressed audio (eg. music CD's). You can play
> them with MPEGA or AmigaAMP. As for whether you Amiga can handel it, no.
My
> A1200 040/25mhz can't play MP3 at full speed w/ a 68k player, so your 030
> A3K will have even more trouble. (My PPC MP3 player works at full quality
> though ;)

my 030 does pretty good in mono, *2 divisions

>   If you want to play MP3s on your amiga, then you'll have to get that
MP3
> hardware decoder, whats it called again? (I thinks its 'MPEGit' or
sommin)

mpega is still the best player/decoder

> Or of corce, a PPC board ;)  (Aparently an 060/50 can just about do it
too)

:P

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Hi ken

On 08-Mar-99, you wrote:

>>   Well, MP3s are simply compressed audio (eg. music CD's). You can play
>> them with MPEGA or AmigaAMP. As for whether you Amiga can handel it, no.
>> My

> Well thats good to know, I don't mind converting, I only have 2 mp3's
> anyways and my curiosity isn't that great..

That will take about 100megs hard drive space then....


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                 Has any one gone to my web pages yet ?
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From: Richard Griffith <[e-mail]>

On 09-Mar-99, Sven Dröge wrote:

>> The TT fonts should work with any program, as the diskfont.library
>> handles calling ttf.library, and creating 'normal' fonts in memory
>> as needed. No special awareness of the source of the font is needed
>> for most applications.

> How is that realized, that diskfont.lib calls ttf.library without a patch
> (maybe this is just another annoying question of mine...)

The .font file for an outline font has an identifier at the start
that indicates that is should have more information in a .otag
file. The .otag file, among other things, indicates what engine
library is required to use it. With the standard CG fonts that come
with AmigaOS, that library is 'bullet', while those installed for
use with ttf.library contain 'ttf'. Diskfont, or any other outline
font aware program, knows how to use this name to open the correct
library, and how to load the .otag file contents into memory and
pass it to that library to access the correct font. (The name otag
actually is a shorthand of Outline Tag list, tag lists being the
system way of passing multiple parameters to functions, and outline
indicates that these parameters relate to the outline font engine
specification.) In effect, the 'patch' was already built in, as it
was designed to be extensible. (good question, long answer...)

> I did that (checking for caches) and updated these.
> Now it works sometimes.
> Look at the system font-preferences. There are three different fonts to
> choose. It's interesting but I can only choose all fonts at the third font
> requester. At the first two ones, there are many font missing in the list.
> Perhaps you know why ????

In the font preferences, the System Default Text choice requires a
fixed width font (where all the characters are the same width.) Only
fonts that have that characteristic will be shown in the list. (BTW,
yes, monospaced truetypes are available, but they're comparatively
rare.) The other items (Icon and Screen text) should show all the
fonts installed.

Hope this clears things up a bit,
-Richard

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From: Sven =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dr=F6ge?= <[e-mail]>

Hello Richard

After reinstalling and thinking about what you wrote, now everything works
fine.
It's a very nive feeling with the new fonts !!!
Thanks for your advice.

> Hope this clears things up a bit,
Well it did !!


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From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>


 Hey dudes, the amiga is better than a mac! Better than the PC too, but
that's all my university has unfortunatly. So the solution is to make it as
amiga like as possible on my account. Unfortunatly I don't know all that
much about how to do that or how far I can take it. I do of course want to
take it as far toward amiganess as possible.

I've managed to load my amiga wb screen as a background picture, and this
computer seems friendlyer already.

 I want to have bigger icons, bigger texts and shortcuts. Shortcuts can't
be hard, I should be able to find that out. Oh, and I want the mouse
pointer bigger too!

  This and any other amigerizations would be greatly appreciated!


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Subject: [just-amiga] Is it the first of April already?
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

   Who's read the latest AmigaFormat?

/I quote:/

   "A leaked doc. from Amiga Inc, ACC and NSA sent to us reveals details of
the new Amiga's CPU"
/   Ok, fine so far/...


   "It is capable of storing more then 3 TB on the chip it's self and it'll
operate at speeds of 12,000GHz"
   /Yeah, right!! Sure it will.../


   "this processor is based upon the designs reverse-engineered from the
chips in the UFO at Roswell"
/   Um, we belive you....
/

   You really can tell that the guys at AF have far too much free time!
/
/
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From: Sergio Maiandi <[e-mail]>

Hi

as far as I know Yam is a multi user email prog, well, how can I add a
new user?

I'm using Yam 2.0p6, but some of the features described in the guide
(add user, delete user, ...) are not in the Settings/users menu

did anyone suceed in adding users ?

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From: Mark Tierno <[e-mail]>

Hello Andrew

On 11-Mar-99, Andrew Crowe wrote:
> From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
>   Who's read the latest AmigaFormat?
>
> /I quote:/
>
>   "A leaked doc. from Amiga Inc, ACC and NSA sent to us reveals details of
> the new Amiga's CPU"
> /   Ok, fine so far/...
>
>
>   "It is capable of storing more then 3 TB on the chip it's self and it'll
> operate at speeds of 12,000GHz"
>   /Yeah, right!! Sure it will.../
>
>
>   "this processor is based upon the designs reverse-engineered from the
> chips in the UFO at Roswell"

Umm, lemme guess... this would be the /April/ issue?  As in April's Fool?

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From: Pat Kushko <[e-mail]>

>    Who's read the latest AmigaFormat?
>
> /I quote:/
>
>    "A leaked doc. from Amiga Inc, ACC and NSA sent to us reveals details of
> the new Amiga's CPU"
> /   Ok, fine so far/...
>
>
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> operate at speeds of 12,000GHz"
>    /Yeah, right!! Sure it will.../
>
>
>    "this processor is based upon the designs reverse-engineered from the
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From: "Mattias Andersson" <[e-mail]>

Maybe you have to install multiuser on your computer. (not sure)

/Mattias
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From: Sergio Maiandi <[e-mail]>
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Date: den 12 mars 1999 10:09
Subject: [just-amiga] Yam users


>From: Sergio Maiandi <[e-mail]>
>
>Hi
>
>as far as I know Yam is a multi user email prog, well, how can I add a
>new user?
>
>I'm using Yam 2.0p6, but some of the features described in the guide
>(add user, delete user, ...) are not in the Settings/users menu
>
>did anyone suceed in adding users ?
>
>Ciao!
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: NEWS: Petro Tyschtschenko interviewed in AIO 22

From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>

Ian,

On 07-Mar-99, you wrote:

> Who do you plan on interviewing next and who decides which questions
> to ask ???

Well me basically but this was different, read below.

> If we know in advance who the interview is with can we submit
> questions ourselves and you pick say the best 20 questions or so..  ???

I dunno if you where on the list about 5 weeks ago but I did
ask the list what questions to ask him and people replied, the
questions that the people on the list asked where the ones that
I asked him. So yes *YOU* the readers got to ask.

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Subject: [just-amiga] Mac Laptops? (G3 powerbook etc)

From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>

If anyone knows anything abouts Mac laptops then please email me
privately, [e-mail], thanks!

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From: Riccardo Cretti <[e-mail]>

Hello Sergio!

On 11-Mar-99, you wrote:

> as far as I know Yam is a multi user email prog, well, how can I add a
> new user?

With a texteditor like CygnusEd or GoldEd or Ed or what you want, load
the file .users.
Now, in the 4th line, change the number (7 or 4, I don't remember now)
with 0.
Now if you restart YAM, you can add users without problems.

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Dear AIO readers,

You obviously have heard that AIO for a while now has been trying to
raise funds to get the web domain www.aio.co.uk, so far we have had
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Subject: [just-amiga] Oftel email address (Uk only)

From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>

Does anybody have an Oftel email address? something like

@oftel.gov.uk?

Please help if you know.

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From: Rob Hutchinson <[e-mail]>

Hello,

   I know there has been some talk of taglines in YAM not working.
So I wrote a Sig-Tagger specifically for YAM2P6 users...
Which should be p*ss easy to use :)
If anyone is interested, check out AmiNet, comm/mail/TMS.lha
Or our website: http://www.satanicdreams.freeserve.co.uk/
(But it wont be on there for a week or so.), if all else fails, contact me
privatly and I`ll send it to you..
There are probably tonnes of these taggers about already, but TMS is
cool! Supports tagging specific lines of your sig, and Prefixing
(So you can have <tsb> or <sb> infront of the tagline :) )... all you need
then is a .taglines file :), of which there are tonnes on AmiNet :)

Cya!
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>


>>   "this processor is based upon the designs reverse-engineered from the
>> chips in the UFO at Roswell"
>
> Umm, lemme guess... this would be the /April/ issue?  As in April's Fool?

   bingo.

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Andrew

On 11-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

> Hi Everybody,

>   Who's read the latest AmigaFormat?

In the back of last issue it says the next is out on 15th? (or do
subscribers get it earlier?)

> /I quote:/

>   "A leaked doc. from Amiga Inc, ACC and NSA sent to us reveals details
of
> the new Amiga's CPU"
> /   Ok, fine so far/...

Nout wrong with that

>   "It is capable of storing more then 3 TB on the chip it's self and
it'll
> operate at speeds of 12,000GHz"
>   /Yeah, right!! Sure it will.../

If it did, there would be no competition

>   "this processor is based upon the designs reverse-engineered from the
> chips in the UFO at Roswell"
> /   Um, we belive you....

Wha a complete crock!, no way in hell...

>   You really can tell that the guys at AF have far too much free time!

The power has gone to Ben's head
.
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

   Thought you might all like to know that I've just redone my website.

It now features a list of all the games/utils I've writen, with links to
download them from aminet.



To have a look, goto

   Http://members.tripod.com/~MantaSoft/
or
   http://www.geocities.com/Eureka/Gold/1713/



   Email me with what you think of it...

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From: Ian Ison <[e-mail]>

---Chris Seward <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I dunno if you where on the list about 5 weeks ago but I did
> ask the list what questions to ask him and people replied, the
> questions that the people on the list asked where the ones that
> I asked him. So yes *YOU* the readers got to ask.

So sorry No I Wasn`t And Thanks for taking the time to reply !!

so whos next then ???
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From: Wayne Pyrah <[e-mail]>

Hi Chris

On 12-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>
>
> Does anybody have an Oftel email address? something like
>
> @oftel.gov.uk?

Try Peter Walker ( Technology Director ) [e-mail]
He regularly writes to usenet uk.telecom newsgroup.

Hope thats what you wanted
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Hi Chris

On 12-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>
>
> Does anybody have an Oftel email address? something like
>
> @oftel.gov.uk?

Try Peter Walker ( Technology Director ) [e-mail]
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From: Nik Williams <[e-mail]>

Hello Rick

On 12-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>
>
>
> Hey dudes, the amiga is better than a mac! Better than the PC too, but
> that's all my university has unfortunatly. So the solution is to make it as
> amiga like as possible on my account. Unfortunatly I don't know all that
> much about how to do that or how far I can take it. I do of course want to
> take it as far toward amiganess as possible.
>
> I've managed to load my amiga wb screen as a background picture, and this
> computer seems friendlyer already.
>
> I want to have bigger icons, bigger texts and shortcuts. Shortcuts can't
> be hard, I should be able to find that out. Oh, and I want the mouse
> pointer bigger too!
>
>  This and any other amigerizations would be greatly appreciated!
>
>
> Cool Enough, TTFN!
>
>
>
Regards


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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,


> Hey dudes, the amiga is better than a mac! Better than the PC too, but

   Not really anymore. It still may be nicer to use but its really lacking a
lot now...

> that's all my university has unfortunatly. So the solution is to make it
as
> amiga like as possible on my account. Unfortunatly I don't know all that
> much about how to do that or how far I can take it. I do of course want to
> take it as far toward amiganess as possible.

   You can change the look, but they'll still feel different to amiga OS.

> I've managed to load my amiga wb screen as a background picture, and this
> computer seems friendlyer already.
>
> I want to have bigger icons, bigger texts and shortcuts. Shortcuts can't
> be hard, I should be able to find that out. Oh, and I want the mouse
> pointer bigger too!

   With Windows you can do that easily, just press right mouse button on the
desktop and select properties.

>  This and any other amigerizations would be greatly appreciated!

    If its a PC then there is an archive on aminet (i think) that contains
amiga style icons etc. If its a PC (with windows9x?) then short cuts are
easy too. Hold right mouse button on a file and select 'create shortcut'.

   If its a mac, then I have no idea I'm afraid.

See ya.
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Is it the first of April already?
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

>>   "this processor is based upon the designs reverse-engineered from the
>> chips in the UFO at Roswell"
>> /   Um, we belive you....
>
> Wha a complete crock!, no way in hell...

   Well, if you belive somepeople then all mirco-chips are
reverse-engineered from roswell...../
/
>>   You really can tell that the guys at AF have far too much free time!
>
> The power has gone to Ben's head

Its probably an attempt at an April Fools, but April Fool jokes are supposed
to be remotely beliveable.


   PS. It also says "ring 01225 822744 for more info about it."
      I dare someone to ring that number (you won't catch me ringing it!)


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From: Ian Ison <[e-mail]>






---Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Its probably an attempt at an April Fools, but April Fool jokes are
supposed
> to be remotely beliveable.
>
>
>    PS. It also says "ring 01225 822744 for more info about it."
>       I dare someone to ring that number (you won't catch me ringing
it!)

I just rang it !!!!

It says sorry april fool but more info will be in the next issue of AF
also an interview with the creator of the amiga version of netscape.
and a feature on piracy!!!
________
/riadian

> See ya.

Not If I See You First :)

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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: mp3 or MPG

From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>

On 08-Mar-99, you wrote:

> I don't know about an A3000 @ 25mhz but I do know that an 040 /40 has
no
> trouble at all playing mp3's.  I now have an 060/50 and it of course
it's a

Maybe i'm lucky or maybe i'm less bothered about sound quality but
my 030/50Mhz with 32mb ram plays them fine with good enough sound
quality, obviously you can't do anything else or it breaks up but
they seem to play ok..

Toodle Pip!
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From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>


On 09-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: John <[e-mail]>
>
> Hello Tim
>
>    Thanx :))
>

You don't have to send seperate emails thanking everyone that
replied you know.

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From: Nik Williams <[e-mail]>

Hello Andrew

On 13-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
>>>   "this processor is based upon the designs reverse-engineered from the
>>> chips in the UFO at Roswell"
>>> /   Um, we belive you....
>>
>> Wha a complete crock!, no way in hell...
>
>   Well, if you belive somepeople then all mirco-chips are
> reverse-engineered from roswell...../
> /
>>>   You really can tell that the guys at AF have far too much free time!
>>
>> The power has gone to Ben's head
>
> Its probably an attempt at an April Fools, but April Fool jokes are supposed
> to be remotely beliveable.
>
>
>   PS. It also says "ring 01225 822744 for more info about it."
>      I dare someone to ring that number (you won't catch me ringing it!)
>
>
> See ya.
Regards
Go on ring it they maybe some sort of prize for the first ten or summin! A
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From: jack york <[e-mail]>

Hello Sergio

On 11-Mar-99, Sergio Maiandi wrote:
> From: Sergio Maiandi <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi
>
> as far as I know Yam is a multi user email prog, well, how can I add a
> new user?
>
> I'm using Yam 2.0p6, but some of the features described in the guide
> (add user, delete user, ...) are not in the Settings/users menu
>
> did anyone suceed in adding users ?

I just went through this, although I don't know that I know enough to
explain it to you.  If you want to be able to start Yam and have access to
mail for different users then you need to have them listed as users.  You
will need to delete your .users file so that when you select users from the
settings menu, the add gadget appears.  Then add the different users you
want.  After that you can use the menu Folder -> Check single account item
to read a particular users mail.

But if you want to have each user set up to have his own set of folders,
then you will need to add them using configurations -> tcp/ip.  Click on new
and enter the needed info.  When Yam starts it will display a list of all
the users and you have to click on which one you want to start.

I hope this helps a little.  If you need more help I don't mind trying but
have you considered asking on the Yam mailing list?  That's where I got the
answers.  They were very helpful.

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Subject: [just-amiga] 100% FREE I-NET ACCESS IN THE UK!! AND I MEAN 100% (Not SPAM, honest :) )
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From: Rob Hutchinson <[e-mail]>

Hello,

  Does anybody know anything more about X-Stream? And using the service
with the miggy? If you have no idea what I`m talking about, visit:
http://www.x-stream.com/

Basically, in March, on Weekends, they are offering 100% free internet
access, with 0800 numbers. There are catches..

 o You get disconnected after an hour (I think).
 o You have to use MSN-IE
 o You get crappy adverts at the top of your Win screen.

Well, being a Miggy-only owner. I can`t use this service <sob>...
We might be able to if someone can figure out what the user-names are,
the number to call, etc,. (Cos you can create an account from the above
site, but after you finished, you have to have IE3+ installed to contine.)

Is this the start of something big in the UK?,.. I always thought that they
would start 0800 number internet access in the UK sooner or later,
I just hope that everone else follows.. (And they will if it becomes
finacially benifical for them :) )

BTW - Has anyone else noticed how crap Freeserve have become lately?

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Rob

On 13-Mar-99, you wrote:

> Well, being a Miggy-only owner. I can`t use this service <sob>...
> We might be able to if someone can figure out what the user-names are,
> the number to call, etc,. (Cos you can create an account from the above
> site, but after you finished, you have to have IE3+ installed to contine.)

Just install it on a pc and look at the settings, then tell us all!

> BTW - Has anyone else noticed how crap Freeserve have become lately?

They have become worse, but they are still better than they used to be. Of
all the isps (including paying ones) they are the fastest. ftp site is down
atm though :(

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Andrew

On 13-Mar-99, you wrote:

>   PS. It also says "ring 01225 822744 for more info about it."
>      I dare someone to ring that number (you won't catch me ringing it!)

I'll do that tomorrow :)

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Rob

On 12-Mar-99, you wrote:

>   I know there has been some talk of taglines in YAM not working.

P7 is out now, and the taglines are fixed :)

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From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>


On 13-Mar-99, you wrote:

> It says sorry april fool but more info will be in the next issue of AF
> also an interview with the creator of the amiga version of netscape.
> and a feature on piracy!!!

I just rang it to, you get to leave Amiga Format a message, if you
ring it on : *01225 822744*  in the UK or *[phone]* outside the
UK then say,

"Hey i've got some news, Amiga Information Online has just bought
out Amiga Format............ ha ha ha... aren't we so funny... AIO is
complete Amiga mag domination!"

Ok maybe thats a little over the top but i'm off to say it any how,
maybe it'd be good if someone else did :) why not message the list
with things you said to it..

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From: Pat Kushko <[e-mail]>


Pedro Duarte is putting to-gether a Faq on 14 bit sound and Full Quality
mp3 Sound on an modest AMIGA. I Imagine he would share for those interested.

[e-mail] or [e-mail]

HaRd:A3k 030 25MhZ 16mBaMiFaSt 1GiGsCsI dCtV nEc-25X1cDrOm
     HdFlOpPy UsRVi33.6 HiTachi 2187 rEtIna bLt Z3 A590/500
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From: cbminfo <[e-mail]>

I once had something up and running for pdf files, either ghostscript or xpdf.
I almost had xpdf up yesterday, it seems to be the one with the best chance of
doing anything. Only trouble is it needs a stack of >=20000. And the default
stack is nowhere near that. I tried creating a project icon with stack 21000
and default tool as xpdf, but this did nothing..

And I'm pretty sure this is what I used. I also seem to recall being able to
use xpdf or gs with aweb.. Has anyone else used a pdf viwer on their amiga
(SUCCESSFULLY) Heck I did, but the docs just don't say how to set things up..
And I can't recall how I did it last time.

I tried adding stack >NIL: 21000, this did diddly. And the amiga manuals I got
with 3.1 from softhut don't say anything about how to permanently change stack
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From: Colin Wenzel <[e-mail]>

Warning: This is a message in MIME format. Your mail reader does not
support MIME. Some parts of this message will be readable as plain text.
To see the rest, you will need to upgrade your mail reader.

This message was composed on an Amiga using the YAM mailer.
YAM is available at http://bitcom.ch/~mbeck/

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On 14-Mar-99, cbminfo wrote:
>From: cbminfo <[e-mail]>
>I once had something up and running for pdf files, either ghostscript or
xpdf.
>I almost had xpdf up yesterday, it seems to be the one with the best chance
of
>doing anything. Only trouble is it needs a stack of >=20000. And the default
>stack is nowhere near that. I tried creating a project icon with stack 21000
>and default tool as xpdf, but this did nothing..


Get the XPDF stuff from aminet & then stick this attachment in
your S: directory & set the +s bit with the protect command.

When you want to view one,  just pop a shell & type:
   ViewPDF      or      ViewPDF <file>


If you dont have the stuff in the same place just modify the script.

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Colin Wenzel. Australia.                   |
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Email:  [e-mail]               |
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Content-Type: text/plain; name="ViewPDF"

.key pdf

IF NOT "<pdf>" EQ ""
  IF EXISTS "<rtf>"
    IF EXISTS "SYS:Utilities/xpdf/libX11/rgb.txt"
      Assign LIBX11: "SYS:Utilities/xpdf/libX11"
      Stack 40000
      SYS:Utilities/xpdf/xpdf >NIL: "<pdf>"
      Assign LIBX11: REMOVE
    ENDIF
  ENDIF
ELSE
  RequestFile >ENV:pdf PATTERN=#?.pdf TITLE="Select a PDF document"
  IF NOT $pdf EQ ""
    Assign LIBX11: "SYS:Utilities/xpdf/libX11"
    Stack 40000
    SYS:Utilities/xpdf/xpdf >NIL: $pdf
    Assign LIBX11: REMOVE
  ENDIF
  UNSET pdf
ENDIF



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>Get the XPDF stuff from aminet & then stick this attachment in
>your S: directory & set the +s bit with the protect command.

Will do. You know whats odd here, I did have xpdf up and running ages, and I
didn't have near this much to go thru. Actually I think all I did was pulled
down the Amiga E CLI command box and typed pdf. Then I had pdf fire up, and
then just used the open pulldown inside xpdf.

Thats why I wrote here, Using the open inside xpdf did nothing the other day.


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From: [e-mail] (Neil Williams)

Hi Rob,
 In a message dated 13 Mar 99 Rob wrote to All:

 RH>  Does anybody know anything more about X-Stream? And using the service
 RH> with the miggy? If you have no idea what I`m talking about, visit:
 RH> http://www.x-stream.com/

 RH> Well, being a Miggy-only owner. I can`t use this service <sob>... We
 RH> might be able to if someone can figure out what the user-names are, the
 RH> number to call, etc,. (Cos you can create an account from the above

I tried to get online with X-Stream when they first started out.  I never
could, even with Miami, as they have a custom dialer.  Infact, they've even
started encrypting the phone numbers in their software!

Possibly the only way to figure out what's going on would be to have a machine
snoop the serial line to the modem on a Windows machine while it's connecting.
I could probably write a dialer to get AmiTCP or Miami working if I had that
data... Could anyone get that data?

 RH> Is this the start of something big in the UK?,.. I always thought that

X-Stream is the only free provider which makes it's money from advertising.
Most of the rest take a cut of the standard call charge.  I don't think it's
too likely any others will follow :-(

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From: Rob Hutchinson <[e-mail]>

Hello Matthew
     Hiya, Matthew... ,on 14-Mar-99 you mailed me about: [just-amiga] Re:=
 TagLines in YAM.! So I`ma reply`in...

[=3D> From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
[=3D>=20
[=3D> Hi Rob
[=3D>=20
[=3D> On 12-Mar-99, you wrote:
[=3D>=20
[=3D>>   I know there has been some talk of taglines in YAM not working.
[=3D>=20
[=3D> P7 is out now, and the taglines are fixed :)

ERm,... mine STILL dont work!!, was the VERY first thing that I checked,
and my YAM2P7 STILL spews the whole tagline file out over the sig :(((

Which is cool, cos that means I cant be the only one having difficulties,
which means TMS might still be of some use :),.... Not that it matters
cos I put it together in about an hour anyways :)

Chow!.

[=3D> Regards
Regards
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From: "Alan Gryniewicz" <[e-mail]>

>  Does anybody know anything more about X-Stream? And using the service
>Basically, in March, on Weekends, they are offering 100% free internet
>access, with 0800 numbers. There are catches..
> o You get disconnected after an hour (I think).


You don`t get disconnected after an hour.... I think it`s just the fact that
X-Stream gets so overloaded that it ends up dropping carrier on you now and
again... I`ve been using it this weekend and if you do get a connect (half
the UK must be on this ISP!!!!!) it`s very slow anyway.

>Is this the start of something big in the UK?,.. I always thought that they
>would start 0800 number internet access in the UK sooner or later,


I doubt it..... surely they can`t be making any money out of it... even with
adverts!

>BTW - Has anyone else noticed how crap Freeserve have become lately?


Talking of Freeserve I heard somewhere that in terms of profits they will
just break even in about a year`s time!!

C yA!

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>Get the XPDF stuff from aminet & then stick this attachment in
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From: Conor Kerr <[e-mail]>

Hi Chris,

Well, I heard that you're looking for a website (www.aio.com?) so I thoug=
ht
I'd write to you.

How much webspace do you need?

Depending on how much you need I'm prepared to offer you your own website=
 to
be hosted own my own commercial space.

I have the highest performance/quality space available and at =A3300 a ye=
ar
for the space alone it should be!!!


Of course it comes with full SSI/CGI and secure servers so all your web
needs are catered for. (I've a number of custom scripts written including
guestbooks, counters, download counters etc.).

Basically I can give you your own website with full ftp access (i.e. you
would have the only username and password - it's a proper website).

I've got some extra space going and you seem to be a worthy candidate.

I'm not asking for any money, all you have to do is pay the bills specifi=
c
to your site to the provider Wirenet/U-net.

These are: $70 for domain registration for two years ($35 every year
thereafter, payable to internic - you have to pay for this no matter what
website you're getting).

=A360 for one year's web-forwarding (the process used by the ISP to make =
sure
that "www.aio.com" always brings people to the correct DNS address.)

And optionally =A360 for a year for email-forwarding (So you could have y=
our
own email addresses e.g. [e-mail] etc.), although this isn't really
something you need if you want to keep thoings cheap.

So if you just get the website it'll be less than a hundred quid for the
best performance webspace you can get (I doubt that you could get your ow=
n
webspace with scripts/ssi etc. for the =A3180 you were looking for).  The
only other possible cost is for the email you want it.

I can have my ISP set this up within a few weeks if you want to and you c=
an
pay them later (so you could start using it ASAP!).

I hope you like this email I've written to you, I know that this offer is
useful to you!! ;)))

All the best...

*Conor Kerr*
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From: Rick Giles <[e-mail]>


It's simply incredible what Richard Lane wrote on 06-Mar-99:

|>>  Is it possible to view amigaguides on a PC or Mac??

|>winguide.lha  misc/emu 194K  52+Win95 prog to display AmigaGuide Files.
|>should do the trick.


 Like a charm! Thanks my man, I just hope I can get other things like
this to make computer work tolerable at university.

                                               Cool Enough, TTFN!

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From: cbminfo <[e-mail]>

Since the HD crash, I've been trying to restore everything. But I just can not
connect or for that matter even FIND the U.S. aminet site either at the other
sites mirro links, or using altavista..

Has the U.S. Site gone out of business ?


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From: "Richard Lane" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 10:11:04 -0500, in <[e-mail]>
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> From: cbminfo <[e-mail]>
>
> Since the HD crash, I've been trying to restore everything. But I just can not
> connect or for that matter even FIND the U.S. aminet site either at the other
> sites mirro links, or using altavista..
>
> Has the U.S. Site gone out of business ?

The main "wuarchive.wustl.edu" has been down for ages, since March 6th
IIRC. Its currently being restored from tape but 112gb takes a long
while. However, the mirror site "ftp.sunset.se" was still up and running at
2am GMT this morning and was fairly fast too.


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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Miami probs?

From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>


On 08-Mar-99, you wrote:

> the Miami interface, under the item/feature 'Quick Reconnect' which can

> be set for Ram (meaning from the stored info in memory) or file (as per

> your software settings or disabled. Keep in mind that if the
information

Thanks for the tip but it didn't seem to make any difference, I
tried both Ram and file but neither seemed to work, now if i could
just stop the modem resetting an make it grab the DNS servers and
IP it'd work :)

> HaRd:A3k 030 25MhZ 16mBaMiFaSt 1GiGsCsI dCtV nEc-25X1cDrOm
>     HdFlOpPy UsRVi33.6 HiTachi 2187 rEtIna bLt Z3 A590/500
> sOfT:wB3.1 pArM rUnBaR mUi MaGiCmEnU sWaZiNfO dOpUs566 eTc
>     MuLtIcX cEd CyFxP96 CbE pOwErSnAp BeTtErEdIt WbStArTuP+
>       FaNaTiC aIo rEadER wHo tHiNks tHat AiO iS tHe bEst eVer!

tHaNkS aGaIn, uG tHiS wRiTiNg Is HoRrIbLe, WhY aRe We WrItTiNg
LiKe ThIs?

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From: Mattias Andersson <[e-mail]>

> The main "wuarchive.wustl.edu" has been down for ages, since March 6th
> IIRC. Its currently being restored from tape but 112gb takes a long
> while. However, the mirror site "ftp.sunset.se" was still up and running
at
> 2am GMT this morning and was fairly fast too.

You mean ftp.sunet.se I guess ;)

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From: "Richard Lane" <[e-mail]>

On Mon, 15 Mar 1999 20:04:13 +0100, in <[e-mail]>
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> From: Mattias Andersson <[e-mail]>
>
> > The main "wuarchive.wustl.edu" has been down for ages, since March 6th
> > IIRC. Its currently being restored from tape but 112gb takes a long
> > while. However, the mirror site "ftp.sunset.se" was still up and running
> at
> > 2am GMT this morning and was fairly fast too.
>
> You mean ftp.sunet.se I guess ;)

Whoops! yes indeed, but sunset sounds nicer :)


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From: Mattias Andersson <[e-mail]>

>>  You mean ftp.sunet.se I guess ;)
>
> Whoops! yes indeed, but sunset sounds nicer :)

Absolutely! Too bad it's rare these days in Sweden. About Sunet, it seems
that "recent" doesn't work but the archive is still there.

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From: Mattias Andersson <[e-mail]>

I have problems with my Motorola V3400 28K8 modem. The modem doesn't connect
on some providers. I've heard that this is a problem with this modem but no
solution has arrived yet. Anyone with the same problem? Or if someone have
some tips & trix?

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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Hi all

I don't use taglines in YAM, but thanks for mentioning P7 on this
thread, or I wouldn't have known that it's been released (Aminet's
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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 15-Mar-99 22:15:04, Stephen Williams ([e-mail]) wrote:

> I don't use taglines in YAM, but thanks for mentioning P7 on this
> thread, or I wouldn't have known that it's been released (Aminet's
> "new/recent" stuff isn't working...)

No, but plenty of news sites are.

Small selection:
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    http://www.ann.lu/
    http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/
    http://www.amiga.org/
    http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminew.html

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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello cbminfo,

On 15-Mar-99, cbminfo wrote:
> From: cbminfo <[e-mail]>
>
> Since the HD crash, I've been trying to restore everything. But I just
> can not connect or for that matter even FIND the U.S. aminet site
> either at the other sites mirro links, or using altavista..
>
> Has the U.S. Site gone out of business ?
>

The wustl site hard drive is full (again) should be back online soon

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From: Wayne Pyrah <[e-mail]>

Hi Thomas

On 15-Mar-99, you wrote:

>
>> I don't use taglines in YAM, but thanks for mentioning P7 on this
>> thread, or I wouldn't have known that it's been released (Aminet's
>> "new/recent" stuff isn't working...)

You can check if there is a new version of YAM quickly by going into the PROJECT menu and then click on CHECK VERSION whilst on line. This takes about 5 seconds.

Alternatively you can visit www.yam.ch

BTW I think preview 7 is much faster !

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Wayne

On 16-Mar-99, you wrote:

> You can check if there is a new version of YAM quickly by going into the
> PROJECT menu and then click on CHECK VERSION whilst on line. This takes
> about 5 seconds.

You should, but it didn't work for me. I was only, did the update thing and
it said I had the latest version, then I went to the site and downloaded
the latest version. Unless it works with the aminet??

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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Thomas Hurst <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Small selection:
>    http://surf.to/amisite
>    http://www.ann.lu/
>    http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/
>    http://www.amiga.org/
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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Hi y'all

Which Web browser do you all use on your Amigas, and why?  I currently
use Voyager, but am getting sick of its habit of crashing (with
fireworks) every time it runs out of chip RAM.  I'm therefore
considering a switch to IBrowse or AWeb.  I'd like your opinions on
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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Rick Giles <[e-mail]> wrote:
> |>winguide.lha  misc/emu 194K  52+Win95 prog to display AmigaGuide Files.
> |>should do the trick.
>
>
> Like a charm!

It's also good for reading plain text documents with.  Better than
Multiview, actually, because it can search.  text.datatype can't
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From: Brian Foster <[e-mail]>

Hello Andrew

On 16-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
>> Which Web browser do you all use on your Amigas, and why?  I currently
>
>   I use IBrowse. It seems to be reliable enough and has lots of features.
> I can't get SSL to work with it though.
>

I use Ibrowse as well. It is the best looking amiga browser by far. The
reason I don't use Aweb is because it doesn't look as nice. But there
are some people who could care less about graphics and for them aweb
would work great. Ibrowse has some problems when it runs out of chip ram.
It is fairly stable although there is certainly room for improvement. I
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

> Which Web browser do you all use on your Amigas, and why?  I currently

   I use IBrowse. It seems to be reliable enough and has lots of features. I
can't get SSL to work with it though.

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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello Stephen,

On 16-Mar-99, Stephen Williams wrote:
> From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi y'all
>
> Which Web browser do you all use on your Amigas, and why?  I currently
> use Voyager, but am getting sick of its habit of crashing (with
> fireworks) every time it runs out of chip RAM.  I'm therefore
> considering a switch to IBrowse or AWeb.  I'd like your opinions on
> the strengths and weaknesses of all three Amiga browsers.  None of
> the "Browser foo sucks, use browser bar or you're an idiot" type
> rubbish; _informed_ opinions only please...
>

I use IBrowse with a Picasso IV but if you are using without a gfx card
it can be set to use fast ram for the images to conserve chip ram.
Maybe that will help you. You still need chip ram to display them but I
think it caches them in fast ram when you leave the site, so you won't
have to reload them if you go back.
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-snip-
>I use Ibrowse as well. It is the best looking amiga browser by far. The
>reason I don't use Aweb is because it doesn't look as nice. But there
>are some people who could care less about graphics and for them aweb
>would work great. Ibrowse has some problems when it runs out of chip ram.
>It is fairly stable although there is certainly room for improvement. I
>would be happy if version 2 is ever released.
>Brian

OK, firstly, I use ibrowse on an AGA hires laced 8 plane screen.
I have one of those Apollo flicker fixers/scan doublers that allow me to
use a VGA monitor on my miggy without having to stuff around..
but still, i have the biggest & most hungry screen modes AGA can do...

I NEVER run out of chip mem on the browser (1 or 2 windows open)
since v1.2xx  when he added the images in fastmem switch.
(Preferences->Network->Cache.)

Even with StrICQ & YAM going too, each on their own 4 plane screens
I still have over 700k left.

Also, my SSL libraries work fine,  just follow the installation
directions & read the "ReadMe First"  if any....

Just remember, _EVERYTHING has a price_, if you open everything up in
256 colors & hires laced screens & have huge pictures on deep workbench
screens, you WILL have problems.....

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From: "Mattias Andersson" <[e-mail]>

I think both Ibrowse and Aweb has advantages compared to eathother. If you
want Javascript and no MUI you should use Aweb. None of these 2 browsers
crash often (for me that is). I personally like Voyager for 1 reason: it
show colors better than the other 2. In AGA modes that is.

/Mattias
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>From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>
>
>Hi y'all
>
>Which Web browser do you all use on your Amigas, and why?  I currently
>use Voyager, but am getting sick of its habit of crashing (with
>fireworks) every time it runs out of chip RAM.  I'm therefore
>considering a switch to IBrowse or AWeb.  I'd like your opinions on
>the strengths and weaknesses of all three Amiga browsers.  None of
>the "Browser foo sucks, use browser bar or you're an idiot" type
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From: "David McMinn" <[e-mail]>

> It's also good for reading plain text documents with.  Better than
> Multiview, actually, because it can search.  text.datatype can't
> (though there is a patch on Aminet to add this functionality).

 Not necessarily, it cuts off lines at 80 characters, but its better than using
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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 16-Mar-99 22:14:42, Stephen Williams ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Which Web browser do you all use on your Amigas, and why?  I currently
> use Voyager, but am getting sick of its habit of crashing (with
> fireworks) every time it runs out of chip RAM.  I'm therefore
> considering a switch to IBrowse or AWeb.  I'd like your opinions on
> the strengths and weaknesses of all three Amiga browsers.  None of
> the "Browser foo sucks, use browser bar or you're an idiot" type
> rubbish; _informed_ opinions only please...

I use IBrowse. I like the way it renders most pages (although it's got some
pretty lame table rendering bugs). Although it's HTML support isn't quite up
to the level of AWeb and it's got no JavaScript support, I've found it
renders pages nicer, and it's rock stable - even more so on a GFX card.

AWeb seems quite a decent browser - the best HTML support of the 3 browsers,
pretty fast, JavaScript support etc etc, but it uses Class Act (noooo! come
back MUI, all is forgiven! :) and the rendering engine is a bit ugly.

Regards

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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 16-Mar-99 22:11:34, Stephen Williams ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Thomas Hurst <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Small selection:
>>    http://surf.to/amisite
>>    http://www.ann.lu/
>>    http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga/
>>    http://www.amiga.org/
>>    http://www.cucug.org/amiga/aminew.html

> I really ought to bookmark some of those...

If I get some cash together that top one might be changing rather soon... ;)

Hmmm, anyone feel like dumping a few £50 notes in my bank account? :)

Well, actually, I have some cash (just... but never mind, eating's for wimps
;), I'm just trying to weigh up the advantages of a CGI bin directory and a
domain name (http://www.amisite.org/ methinks - I'm not a company :) against
loosing 1/3rd of my savings...

Would anyone be interested in a site like SlashDot (http://slashdot.org/)
for the Amiga? :)

Regards

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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

   Two things:

1. IBrowse shouldn't run out of chip ram because it uses fast ram to store
images.

2. AWeb has Javascript? Why is this the first I've heard of it? (does the
demo have it? I'll go and check it out now!)


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From: Wayne Pyrah <[e-mail]>

Hi Matthew

On 16-Mar-99, you wrote:

>> You can check if there is a new version of YAM quickly by going into the
>> PROJECT menu and then click on CHECK VERSION whilst on line. This takes
>> about 5 seconds.
>
> You should, but it didn't work for me. I was only, did the update thing and
> it said I had the latest version, then I went to the site and downloaded
> the latest version. Unless it works with the aminet??

As far as I know when you do this it checks the site directly, so I don't know why it didn't work.
The only thing I canthink of is that you downloaded the latest version just as the web site was being updated otherwise I haven't got a clue !

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> From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
> 2. AWeb has Javascript? Why is this the first I've heard of it? (does the
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Yes, the demo have javascript also.

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From: Riccardo Cretti <[e-mail]>

Hello Andrew!

On 17-Mar-99, you wrote:

>   I use IBrowse. It seems to be reliable enough and has lots of features.
> I can't get SSL to work with it though.

Here the internal SSL support of IBrowse works lovely.
But you can use also the SSL support of Miami, if you are a registered user.

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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

>> 2. AWeb has Javascript? Why is this the first I've heard of it? (does the
>> demo have it? I'll go and check it out now!)
>
> Yes, the demo have javascript also.

   Well, it doesn't have full java script support does it? its just that I
couldn't get any online java games etc. to work.

   In fact the only piece of java I did manage to get working is the buttons
on ID softwares website.

Oh well, we'll just have to wait for AMozilla (or IBrowse 2?) for propper
JavaScript.


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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]> wrote:
>   Well, it doesn't have full java script support does it? its just that I
> couldn't get any online java games etc. to work.

Java != JavaScript.

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From: Mattias Andersson <[e-mail]>

> From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
>>
>> Yes, the demo have javascript also.
>
>   Well, it doesn't have full java script support does it? its just that I
> couldn't get any online java games etc. to work.
>
>   In fact the only piece of java I did manage to get working is the
> buttons on ID softwares website.

well, you talk about java.. there is a difference between java and
javascript.. but i suppose you already know that. aweb does not support
java. only javascript. but you might be right about java script support in
the demo version. don't know if there's any difference between the demo and
the full version. i only know that the javascript sites i have visited
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

> well, you talk about java.. there is a difference between java and
> javascript.. but i suppose you already know that. aweb does not support
> java. only javascript. but you might be right about java script support in
> the demo version. don't know if there's any difference between the demo
> and the full version. i only know that the javascript sites i have visited
> works.

   Ah right, I see. Only javascript, no support for propper Java yet.....


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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello Thomas,

On 17-Mar-99, Thomas Hurst wrote:

>
> Would anyone be interested in a site like SlashDot
> (http://slashdot.org/) for the Amiga? :)
>

I thought we already had that with Moo Bunny
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From: Colin Wenzel <[e-mail]>

On 18-Mar-99, Andrew Crowe wrote:
>From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
>Hi Everybody,
>   Two things:
>1. IBrowse shouldn't run out of chip ram because it uses fast ram to store
>images.
>2. AWeb has Javascript? Why is this the first I've heard of it? (does the
>demo have it? I'll go and check it out now!)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think I may have an explanation,  I had someone a while back, having a
similar problem with running out of chip mem.

As it turns out, the poor fellow actually had his WB screen in full
8 plane screenmode.  ( & only had 1 meg chip mem )

When I asked him why he had it so deep for just the gui,
he responded with:  /I need to have the pictures look right./
but there were no pictures on the WB screen ???
He was using Viewtek (which has its own screen)  to view pictures...

As I didn't make the connection with this logic, I enquired further....
Then I got it.....

He actually believed that unless he set his WB screen to MAX-EVERYTHING,
he wouldn't be able to attain any better resolution from any other
program that opened afterwards.

To the initiated, I know it sounds stupid,
but this has happened more than once since then.

Any suggestions how they get this idea, I don't........

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From: Nano <[e-mail]>

[SNIP]
>> I want to have bigger icons, bigger texts and shortcuts. Shortcuts can't
>> be hard, I should be able to find that out. Oh, and I want the mouse
>> pointer bigger too!
>
>   With Windows you can do that easily, just press right mouse button on the
>desktop and select properties.
>
>>  This and any other amigerizations would be greatly appreciated!
>
>    If its a PC then there is an archive on aminet (i think) that contains
>amiga style icons etc. If its a PC (with windows9x?) then short cuts are
>easy too. Hold right mouse button on a file and select 'create shortcut'.
>
>   If its a mac, then I have no idea I'm afraid.

Click once on Icon and go to FILE then MAKE ALIAS

-or, the faster way-

Hold CTRL and single click, a pop up menu appears and select MAKE ALIAS.

-or, a nice enhancement for such things-

Get and Install FinderPop (PPC required). You can now click and hold for a
pop up menu that shows tasks, free mem, instantly move that file anywhere
and a whole lot more.


Bah, why want to change a PC or a Mac to be *like* Amiga. That's the appeal
to different platforms .. their own uniqueness and feel. Just spend some
serious time learning that other OS and you'll find a lot of cool things. I
have a few Macs and I love them but you can guess which of my dozen or so
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From: Nano <[e-mail]>

First trick. add three commas at end of phone number. You usually only need
this if you are dialing into a 56k number and you have a 33.6k or slower.
Reason: 56k modems omit initial beep that will throw off non-56k modems
resulting in connection failure. Three to five commas will tell your modem
to bypass [wait until after] this beep and connect normally.

Next, I'd try init strings. I usually refer to Mr.Modem. Sorry, I don't
have the URL handy. It's bookmarked at work.. hmm wait, I can look on the
staff site.. here we go. http://www.spy.net/~dustin/modem


>From: Mattias Andersson <[e-mail]>
>
>I have problems with my Motorola V3400 28K8 modem. The modem doesn't connect
>on some providers. I've heard that this is a problem with this modem but no
>solution has arrived yet. Anyone with the same problem? Or if someone have
>some tips & trix?




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From: Nano <[e-mail]>

>From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
>
>Hi Everybody,
>
>   Two things:
>
>1. IBrowse shouldn't run out of chip ram because it uses fast ram to store
>images.
>
>2. AWeb has Javascript? Why is this the first I've heard of it? (does the
>demo have it? I'll go and check it out now!)

Yes and yes. However, it seems to CRAWL. Anything using JS takes an
eternity to do/use/see, even simple mouseovers. Maybe I have something
misconfigured? I just keep it turned off. 060@50 and plenty of RAM *shrug*



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On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Andrew Crowe wrote:

>    Well, it doesn't have full java script support does it?

Depends. Full javascript 1.1, not 1.2.

>its just that I
>couldn't get any online java games etc. to work.

No wonder. They use java, not javascript. Not the same thing at
all.

> Oh well, we'll just have to wait for AMozilla (or IBrowse 2?) for propper
> JavaScript.

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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999, Colin Wenzel wrote:

> He actually believed that unless he set his WB screen to MAX-EVERYTHING,
> he wouldn't be able to attain any better resolution from any other
> program that opened afterwards.

> Any suggestions how they get this idea, I don't........

They've been using windows too much...

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Hi

On 17-Mar-99 23:32:28, Andrew Crowe ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Hi Everybody,

>>> 2. AWeb has Javascript? Why is this the first I've heard of it? (does
>>> the demo have it? I'll go and check it out now!)
>>
>> Yes, the demo have javascript also.
>
>   Well, it doesn't have full java script support does it? its just that
>   I couldn't get any online java games etc. to work.

I hope you don't mean Java games, because it's pretty obvious they won't
work :)

AWeb has a full JavaScript 1.1 support... unfortunately it doesn't support
M$'s JScript (almost, but not quite, entirely unlike JavaScript, honest) or
the later versions of JavaScript (1.2, 1.3...)

>   In fact the only piece of java I did manage to get working is the
>   buttons on ID softwares website.

Java != JavaScript, and TBH I couldn't care less about it. I disable it in
whatever browser I'm using, along with Images, Java, ShockWave... I even
disabled Real Media support because the stupid f*cking player timed out and
demanded it download a 3MB "update" at 1 byte/second...

> Oh well, we'll just have to wait for AMozilla (or IBrowse 2?) for
> propper JavaScript.

aMozillaX has a JavaScript shell, nothing in the browser yet. IBrowse should
be going into beta RSN and has been for a month now... errr...

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Hi

On 18-Mar-99 00:17:03, Kenneth Craig ([e-mail]) wrote:

> On 17-Mar-99, Thomas Hurst wrote:

>>
>> Would anyone be interested in a site like SlashDot
>> (http://slashdot.org/) for the Amiga? :)
>>

> I thought we already had that with Moo Bunny
> (http://flyingmice.com/squid/moobunny/amiga/)

Moo Bunny isn't a news site, though, is it? :)

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Hi Mattias

On 17-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: "Mattias Andersson" <[e-mail]>

> I think both Ibrowse and Aweb has advantages compared to eathother. If you
> want Javascript and no MUI you should use Aweb. None of these 2 browsers
> crash often (for me that is). I personally like Voyager for 1 reason: it
> show colors better than the other 2. In AGA modes that is.

Same here, the fast colour quantizing (whatever that is) is as fast as
ibrowse's, plus it gives better results.

I'm still annoyed that buying an fpu didn't speed up web pages :/

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Stephen

On 16-Mar-99, you wrote:

> Which Web browser do you all use on your Amigas, and why?  I currently
> use Voyager, but am getting sick of its habit of crashing (with
> fireworks) every time it runs out of chip RAM.  I'm therefore
> considering a switch to IBrowse or AWeb.  I'd like your opinions on
> the strengths and weaknesses of all three Amiga browsers.  None of
> the "Browser foo sucks, use browser bar or you're an idiot" type
> rubbish; _informed_ opinions only please...

Voyager is the most stable? what settings do you have? V hasn't crashed on
me in ages, especially since I got the latest version.

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Hi Everybody,

> I think I may have an explanation,  I had someone a while back, having a
> similar problem with running out of chip mem.
>
> As it turns out, the poor fellow actually had his WB screen in full
> 8 plane screenmode.  ( & only had 1 meg chip mem )
>
> When I asked him why he had it so deep for just the gui,
> he responded with:  /I need to have the pictures look right./
> but there were no pictures on the WB screen ???
> He was using Viewtek (which has its own screen)  to view pictures...
>
> As I didn't make the connection with this logic, I enquired further....
> Then I got it.....
>
> He actually believed that unless he set his WB screen to MAX-EVERYTHING,
> he wouldn't be able to attain any better resolution from any other
> program that opened afterwards.
>
> To the initiated, I know it sounds stupid,
> but this has happened more than once since then.
>
> Any suggestions how they get this idea, I don't........

   Its obviously from using Windows9x too much.


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Hi Wayne

On 17-Mar-99, you wrote:

>> You should, but it didn't work for me. I was only, did the update thing
>> and it said I had the latest version, then I went to the site and
>> downloaded the latest version. Unless it works with the aminet??

> As far as I know when you do this it checks the site directly, so I don't
> know why it didn't work. The only thing I canthink of is that you
> downloaded the latest version just as the web site was being updated
> otherwise I haven't got a clue !

Nah, I went ot the site first, then remembered the update function and
wondered what it would do...

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Colin

On 18-Mar-99, you wrote:


> To the initiated, I know it sounds stupid,
> but this has happened more than once since then.

> Any suggestions how they get this idea, I don't........

I see.....I see a window......many many windows, perhaps a hundered?....no
less tha that......maybe 95.......

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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello Thomas,

On 18-Mar-99, Thomas Hurst wrote:
> From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi
>
> On 18-Mar-99 00:17:03, Kenneth Craig ([e-mail]) wrote:
>
>> On 17-Mar-99, Thomas Hurst wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Would anyone be interested in a site like SlashDot
>>> (http://slashdot.org/) for the Amiga? :)
>>>
>
>> I thought we already had that with Moo Bunny
>> (http://flyingmice.com/squid/moobunny/amiga/)
>
> Moo Bunny isn't a news site, though, is it? :)
>

No it is not,  but that is probably the nearest thing to slashdot for
the Amiga. All the current news about Amiga is there with plenty of
discussions about it. You can get plenty of news from other sources
such as Amiga.org, AWD, and Czech Amiga, but the Moo Bunny lets you
talk or argue about it.

P.S. Your site is very good too! Keep it up!
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From: Mattias Andersson <[e-mail]>

> From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi Mattias
>
> On 17-Mar-99, you wrote:
>
>> From: "Mattias Andersson" <[e-mail]>
>
>> I think both Ibrowse and Aweb has advantages compared to eathother. If
>> you want Javascript and no MUI you should use Aweb. None of these 2
>> browsers crash often (for me that is). I personally like Voyager for 1
>> reason: it show colors better than the other 2. In AGA modes that is.
>
> Same here, the fast colour quantizing (whatever that is) is as fast as
> ibrowse's, plus it gives better results.
>
> I'm still annoyed that buying an fpu didn't speed up web pages :/

well, do they support fpus then?

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Wuarchive status:

March 15, 7:30am

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Thanks for your patience.


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From: "Mattias Andersson" <[e-mail]>

Heard that they will set it up in germany instead because of all the
problems. Don't know if its true or not.

/Mattias
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From: Hans-Joerg Frieden <[e-mail]>

Mattias Andersson schrieb:
> Heard that they will set it up in germany instead because of all the
> problems. Don't know if its true or not.

Yes, they will. In fact, it is already done, Aminet is up again and
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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Mattias

On 19-Mar-99, you wrote:

>> Same here, the fast colour quantizing (whatever that is) is as fast as
>> ibrowse's, plus it gives better results.
>>
>> I'm still annoyed that buying an fpu didn't speed up web pages :/

> well, do they support fpus then?

Yep, at leat voyager does, it's slower but more acurate. Same for mp3 files,
the fpu version more accurate, but slower. Whereas it makes 3d raytracers
better quality and 3 times as fast, go figure...

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From: "Paul Dixon" <[e-mail]>

Hi one and all,
     Me again :-)
     I need some one who has a gfx card  to go on to my web page,
and look at my Pic's.
    It's in the bowling pages.
    If you can email me if they are any good.
    I have not got a card and they look crap :-(
   BUT I have been told they will look better if you have a gfx card
??????
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From: "Michael Picard" <[e-mail]>


> Hi one and all,
>      Me again :-)
>      I need some one who has a gfx card  to go on to my web page,
> and look at my Pic's.
>     It's in the bowling pages.
>     If you can email me if they are any good.
>     I have not got a card and they look crap :-(
>    BUT I have been told they will look better if you have a gfx card
> ??????
>    Ta
>       Paul
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Hi all

I have a Arowana modem with a Texas Instruments chipset and have managed to connect at about 49000 + to most Internet providers except my local one which is on Diamond Cable so my calls cost 25p an hour at evenings and weekends.

The most my modem connects at is 33600 (V34) but the number goes all the way to ISDN and is 56000 compaitable however they don't know what protocol Flex/V90 or X2 is being used !

The instructions are useless and have no commands in at all so I was wondering if anyone knew how  to force it to use V90 or X2 so I could try that.

Hope you can help
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From: Srdan Kvrgic <[e-mail]>

Hello Thomas

On 18-Mar-99, you wrote:

> AWeb has a full JavaScript 1.1 support... unfortunately it doesn't support
> M$'s JScript (almost, but not quite, entirely unlike JavaScript, honest)
> or the later versions of JavaScript (1.2, 1.3...)

Sorry Thomas, nothing against you personally but AWeb has Javascript 1.1
support. Notice the lack of the word "FULL". It's a great, html/Javascript
code forgiving browser, but It hastn't got "FULL" Javascript1.1 support.

Try altering document background color. You can't, can you! =)

For some JavaScript games, go see

http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-52132/te3a/spel.html

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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 18-Mar-99 23:42:44, Kenneth Craig ([e-mail]) wrote:

> On 18-Mar-99, Thomas Hurst wrote:
>> On 18-Mar-99 00:17:03, Kenneth Craig ([e-mail]) wrote:
>>> On 17-Mar-99, Thomas Hurst wrote:

>>>> Would anyone be interested in a site like SlashDot
>>>> (http://slashdot.org/) for the Amiga? :)

>>> I thought we already had that with Moo Bunny
>>> (http://flyingmice.com/squid/moobunny/amiga/)

>> Moo Bunny isn't a news site, though, is it? :)

> No it is not,  but that is probably the nearest thing to slashdot for
> the Amiga. All the current news about Amiga is there with plenty of
> discussions about it. You can get plenty of news from other sources
> such as Amiga.org, AWD, and Czech Amiga, but the Moo Bunny lets you
> talk or argue about it.

I'm thinking more along the lines of being able to click a link on an
article and discuss that article sepritely to anything else, a regular poll,
again with comments.

> P.S. Your site is very good too! Keep it up!

I fully intend to :)

Regards

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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 18-Mar-99 21:59:33, Matthew O'Neill ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Hi Colin

> On 18-Mar-99, you wrote:


>> To the initiated, I know it sounds stupid,
>> but this has happened more than once since then.

>> Any suggestions how they get this idea, I don't........

> I see.....I see a window......many many windows, perhaps a
> hundered?....no less tha that......maybe 95.......

On the off chance that anybody cares, I tried to crash my 64MB Win98 machine
by overloading it. I ran several copies of Netscape, IE, Word, Access,
Excel, PowerPoint etc, and it just got very  v e r y   s  l   o   w.

Then I tried to quit them, but my hard drive made a very peculiar sound and
the entire thing locked up :)

One day, somebody will make an OS you can't crash by running millions of
large apps :)

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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 19-Mar-99 20:27:11, Srdan Kvrgic ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Hello Thomas

> On 18-Mar-99, you wrote:

>> AWeb has a full JavaScript 1.1 support... unfortunately it doesn't
>> support M$'s JScript (almost, but not quite, entirely unlike
>> JavaScript, honest) or the later versions of JavaScript (1.2, 1.3...)

> Sorry Thomas, nothing against you personally but AWeb has Javascript 1.1
> support. Notice the lack of the word "FULL". It's a great,
> html/Javascript code forgiving browser, but It hastn't got "FULL"
> Javascript1.1 support.

Damn! Who nicked "ish" from my post?? :)

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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello all,
    Here is a call for help from Håkan Parting,  author of Amicomsys.


*** Forwarded message, originally written by Hakan Parting on 19-Mar-99
***
*Hello!*

/This letter have recently been sent out to a couple of Amiga related
newsgroups.

I'm the author of AmiComSys, a program to find Amiga buddies on the
Internet, chat and send files.

It's rather similar to the famous ICQ but currently only for Amiga.
AmiComSys was born April 1997.

The reason for writing is that *I need a new full time server*, because
the
current server, amicomsys.tibb.at, have been down for more than 5 weeks
now.

The server software AmiComSys connects to is named AMarqueed, which is a
part of the AMarquee-package. You may find information about it at the
following URL:
http://hem.passagen.se/hparting/amarquee/

AmiComSys have about 300 users, of about 20 is online at the same time.
This
means that the server won't take very much bandwidth.

So if you have an Amiga that is connected to the Internet 24 hours a
day, I
would appreciate very much if you could let me use it for the server.

The AmiComSys home page is located at http://surf.to/AmiComSys/

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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello Thomas,

On 19-Mar-99, Thomas Hurst wrote:


>
> I'm thinking more along the lines of being able to click a link on an
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> poll, again with comments.
>

I see what you mean now. Dense I guess. If you are able to set one up
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From: Colin Wenzel <[e-mail]>


It's that time again.....   I will send the email again that gives details
of how to setup for quick reconnect.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Re: MIAMI Modem Settings for Instant Reconnect.

*** Forwarded message, originally written by Colin Wenzel on 02-Feb-99 ***
On 01-Feb-99,xxxxxx wrote:

>Hey Col
>Just wondered if you have the settings to enable the modem to hold
>the line so you don't have to redial the server when you Reboot or Crash.

In MIAMI:

1:   In the 'modem' section, the initialization string setting  you should
     have something like:   AT&F\r
     you  need to add  &D0  (d-zero, NOT 'O' the letter) to it,  like this:
     AT&F&D0\r

2:   Then select 'USE CD' in the modem settings section.

3:   Set "Quick Re-Connect" to RAM: in the PPP sub menu.

4:   Now select 'Save as Default' from the menu.

     Now quit Miami & run it again.

     That will do it...

     To test it, go online & then reboot.
     After you have booted back up...
     Double Click on MIAMI & then 'ONLINE' again.

     It should then just go back online without dialing again.

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From: "Thomas Hurst" <[e-mail]>

Hi

On 19-Mar-99 23:37:39, Kenneth Craig ([e-mail]) wrote:

> On 19-Mar-99, Thomas Hurst wrote:


>>
>> I'm thinking more along the lines of being able to click a link on an
>> article and discuss that article sepritely to anything else, a regular
>> poll, again with comments.
>>

> I see what you mean now. Dense I guess. If you are able to set one up
> like this please put the URL here for us.

Give me time to steal the relevent code and find a CGI bin dir :)

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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,


>>> Same here, the fast colour quantizing (whatever that is) is as fast as
>>> ibrowse's, plus it gives better results.
>>>
>>> I'm still annoyed that buying an fpu didn't speed up web pages :/
>
>> well, do they support fpus then?
>
> Yep, at leat voyager does, it's slower but more acurate. Same for mp3
> files, the fpu version more accurate, but slower. Whereas it makes 3d
> raytracers better quality and 3 times as fast, go figure...

   Surly whether FPU software is faster then the 68k version depends on the
software and its settings. Like with an MP3 player, prehaps the FPU version
defaults on higher quality modes but surly you can put it pack to low
quality for extra speed?)



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From: "Paul Dixon" <[e-mail]>

   Hi Michael,
    In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Pic, Michael Picard, you said :
> From: "Michael Picard" <[e-mail]>
>
>
> Well I tried them on a MAC, a Pc, and an Amiga and they look fine to me.
>
   Well done, you went throught them didn't you :-)
   Did you go to the big pic's ???
   Click on the thumbnails  and you go to a big pic ;-)
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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]> wrote:
> Voyager is the most stable? what settings do you have? V hasn't crashed on
> me in ages, especially since I got the latest version.

I'm using V 2.96.7 (Netconnect 2 version), on a 640x400 256 colour
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

   Cant they more the Aminet upload facility to one of the other mirrors
while WUArc is down?  Its been far too long since uploads stopped being,
well, uploaded.

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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Andrew

On 20-Mar-99, you wrote:

>> Yep, at leat voyager does, it's slower but more acurate. Same for mp3
>> files, the fpu version more accurate, but slower. Whereas it makes 3d
>> raytracers better quality and 3 times as fast, go figure...

>   Surly whether FPU software is faster then the 68k version depends on
> the software and its settings. Like with an MP3 player, prehaps the FPU
> version defaults on higher quality modes but surly you can put it pack to
> low quality for extra speed?)

Thats what I thought, but they don't. FPUs aren't restricted to integers, so
they are more accurate, but no faster with whole numbers


> See ya.
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From: Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]>

Hi Stephen

On 20-Mar-99, you wrote:

> I'm using V 2.96.7 (Netconnect 2 version), on a 640x400 256 colour
> AGA screen.  It's fine most of the time, but it fails to back out of
> low chip memory situations, preferring to cover my screen in pretty
> coloured mess.

What processor do you have? an 030 or less should use around 64 colours for
the best mix of speed and quality

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On 20-Mar-99 19:21:08, Andrew Crowe wrote:

>    Cant they more the Aminet upload facility to one of the other mirrors
> while WUArc is down?  Its been far too long since uploads stopped being,
> well, uploaded.

They have.  The main site was recently moved to de.aminet.net - uploads
can be made there.  Uploads have been coming in for about the last 4-5
days.  See the recent listings on that site.

Find attached Urban Mueller's usenet post on this subject...

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Because of continued file system troubles on the current main site,
wuarchive.wustl.edu, we're moving the main site to Germany. wuarchive
will be back as a mirror when the file system trouble is resolved.
The main site will very probably remain in Germany and we're trying
to set up a computer of our own as main site so we're no longer at
the mercy of system operators. The most reliable site during this
transition should be de.aminet.net with most other mirrors being
fully operational immediately or within days. I cannot predict for
how long wuarchive will be down. Sorry about the inconvenience,
really not under my control.
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>    Hi Michael,
>     In reply to your:>[just-amiga] Re: Pic, Michael Picard, you said :
> > From: "Michael Picard" <[e-mail]>
> >
> >
> > Well I tried them on a MAC, a Pc, and an Amiga and they look fine to me.
> >
>    Well done, you went throught them didn't you :-)
>    Did you go to the big pic's ???
>    Click on the thumbnails  and you go to a big pic ;-)
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Hi

On 20-Mar-99 15:45:50, Stephen Williams ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Thomas Hurst <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Give me time to steal the relevent code and find a CGI bin dir :)

> Rob Malda's Slashbot backend is available from ftp.slashdot.com, I
> think.  That doesn't help you with the CGI directory, of course...

I know, that's why I said "steal" ;)

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From: Kenneth Craig <[e-mail]>

Hello Andrew,

On 20-Mar-99, Andrew Crowe wrote:
> From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>
>
> Hi Everybody,
>
>   Cant they more the Aminet upload facility to one of the other
> mirrors while WUArc is down? Its been far too long since uploads
> stopped being, well, uploaded.
>

The main site has been changed to de.aminet.net.  Wustl is having
troubles so Urban Mueller has made it the main site. Log on there to
get recent files.
http://ftp.uni-paderborn.de/aminet/

l8r,
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

>>    Cant they more the Aminet upload facility to one of the other mirrors
>> while WUArc is down?  Its been far too long since uploads stopped being,
>> well, uploaded.
>
> They have.  The main site was recently moved to de.aminet.net - uploads
> can be made there.  Uploads have been coming in for about the last 4-5
> days.  See the recent listings on that site.
>
> Find attached Urban Mueller's usenet post on this subject...

   your right, the german server is up. How come the UK mirror hasn't been
updated?

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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Matthew O'Neill <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> I'm using V 2.96.7 (Netconnect 2 version), on a 640x400 256 colour
>> AGA screen.  It's fine most of the time, but it fails to back out of
>> low chip memory situations, preferring to cover my screen in pretty
>> coloured mess.
>
> What processor do you have? an 030 or less should use around 64 colours
> for the best mix of speed and quality

It's not a speed issue, it's an "instability in the face of low chip
RAM" issue.  Agreed, reducing to 64 colours would help, but the same
problem would surely occur no matter what processor I had.

That said, I'd prefer to keep it in 256 colours, 'coz I like my Web
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From: Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]>

Hi Everybody,

>> What processor do you have? an 030 or less should use around 64 colours
>> for the best mix of speed and quality
>
> It's not a speed issue, it's an "instability in the face of low chip
> RAM" issue.  Agreed, reducing to 64 colours would help, but the same
> problem would surely occur no matter what processor I had.
>
> That said, I'd prefer to keep it in 256 colours, 'coz I like my Web
> (relatively) colourful :-)

   What is all the fuss about running out of chip ram with browsers? I've
ran IBrowse in 256 colours and a load of other stuff which left about 15%
chip ram left, it worked fine for ages. Are you sure you've put 'Use fast
ram for images' option on though, because if you havn't then yes, you'd run
out very quickly

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From: I-Amiga List - Amiga Community Informat <[e-mail]>

Noticed Newtek's allowing free download of TVPaint3.6

Went & got it, it's on 3 seperate self-unarchiving files about 3/4 meg each.


_Note: it requires:_

 * *CyberGFX card*
* * 68030*+
* * coprocesser*
* * 16megs*+
* * ADOS 3.0+*

_#AND#_

all the docs are in pdf format - so you'll need Ghostscript, xpdf or similar
pgms to view the docs.

Since I am simply AGA, I could not use the program.  :-(

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From: Frank Bunton <[e-mail]>

G'Day Colin

Re my query about what happened to Livewire Aminet mirror

Colin Wenzel wrote:

> I'm just north of Brisbane, the mirror is there,
> it has been down for me too for some time....
>
> I'll see if I can find out whats happening.

I've been away for quite a while and I have just rejoined this mailing
list.
Also I note that Livewire is still inactive.

Did you by any chance send more info while I was off-line?

Thanks


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From: Colin Wenzel <[e-mail]>

On 22-Mar-99, Frank Bunton wrote:
>From: Frank Bunton <[e-mail]>
>G'Day Colin
>Re my query about what happened to Livewire Aminet mirror

Well I am in a bit of a quandry here,

Firstly, the livewire mirror is still down.

Secondly, the only place I know to contact the owner
          is on the livewire mirror !!!

Go figure......

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From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>

Did anyone see that film in 1995 called Hackers, well anyway there
was an email address in the credits so I emailed it and here is the
full text to a bit that one of the 'hackers' quotes, whats it got to
do with Amiga? well ermmmm.. ... errmm.... ermm..... nothing... but I
liked the sound of this....

*---SNIP---*

The Conscience of a Hacker
           by
       The Mentor
      Legion of Doom

Written on January 8, 1986

        Another one got caught today, it's all over the papers.
"Teenager Arrested in Computer Crime Scandal", "Hacker Arrested after
Bank Tampering"...

     Damn kids.  They're all alike.

        But did you, in your three-piece psychology and 1950's
technobrain, ever take a look behind the eyes of the hacker?  Did you
ever wonder what made him tick, what forces shaped him, what may have
molded him?

     I am a hacker, enter my world...

     Mine is a world that begins with school... I'm smarter than most of
the other kids, this crap they teach us bores me...

     Damn underachiever.  They're all alike.

        I'm in junior high or high school.  I've listened to teachers
explain for the fifteenth time how to reduce a fraction.  I understand
it.  "No, Ms. Smith, I didn't show my work.  I did it in my head..."

     Damn kid.  Probably copied it.  They're all alike.

        I made a discovery today.  I found a computer.  Wait a second,
this is cool.  It does what I want it to.  If it makes a mistake, it's
because I screwed it up.  Not because it doesn't like me...

        Or feels threatened by me...

        Or thinks I'm a smart ass...

        Or doesn't like teaching and shouldn't be here...

     Damn kid.  All he does is play games.  They're all alike.

        And then it happened... a door opened to a world... rushing
through the phone line like heroin through an addict's veins, an
electronic pulse is sent out, a refuge from the day-to-day
incompetencies is sought... a board is found.

     "This is it... this is where I belong..."

     I know everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked
to them, may never hear from them again... I know you all...

     Damn kid.  Tying up the phone line again.  They're all alike...

        You bet your ass we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed baby
food at school when we hungered for steak... the bits of meat that you
did let slip through were pre-chewed and tasteless.  We've been
dominated by sadists, or ignored by the apathetic.  The few that had
something to teach found us willing pupils, but those few are like
drops of water in the desert.

        This is our world now... the world of the electron and the
switch, the beauty of the baud.  We make use of a service already
existing without paying for what could be dirt-cheap if it wasn't run by
profiteering gluttons, and you call us criminals.  We explore... and you
call us criminals.  We seek after knowledge... and you call us
criminals.  We exist without skin color, without nationality, without
religious bias... and you call us criminals. You build atomic bombs, you
wage wars, you murder, cheat, and lie to us and try to make us believe
it's for our own good, yet we're the criminals.

        Yes, I am a criminal.  My crime is that of curiosity.  My crime
is that of judging people by what they say and think, not what they look
like. My crime is that of outsmarting you, something that you will never
forgive me for.

        I am a hacker, and this is my manifesto.  You may stop this
individual, but you can't stop us all... after all, we're all alike.

Mentor

Copyright 1986 by Loyd Blankenship ([e-mail]).
All rights reserved.

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From: Nano <[e-mail]>

>I have a Arowana modem with a Texas Instruments chipset and have managed
>to connect at about 49000 + to most Internet providers except my local
>one which is on Diamond Cable so my calls cost 25p an hour at evenings
>and weekends.
>
>The most my modem connects at is 33600 (V34) but the number goes all the
>way to ISDN and is 56000 compaitable however they don't know what
>protocol Flex/V90 or X2 is being used !
>
>The instructions are useless and have no commands in at all so I was
>wondering if anyone knew how to force it to use V90 or X2 so I could try
>that.

First. Here is a string I found for your modem or something very similar -
Arowana FM-56VT. It may or may not work, but worth a try.

&FM0+MS=12,1,300,56000

---------------------------

Here are several ways you can enable/disable protocols depending on your
modem type.

Primarily for USR but can work with others (with X2):
 X2 on, v.90 off --> S32=66
 X2 off, v.90 on --> S32=24
 Both off ---------> S32=98
 Both on ----------> S32=2

For most Rockwell chips:
 v.90 preferred (flex will still work) --> +MS=12,1
 v.90 only (flex and v.34 disabled) -----> +MS=12,1,34667,56000
 Flex preferred (v.90 will still work) --> +MS=56,1
 Flex only (v.90 and v.34 disabled) -----> +MS=56,1,34000,56000
 v.34 only (v.90 and flex disabled) -----> +MS=11,1

For Rockwell HCF chips:
 v.90 preferred (flex will still work) --> +MS=V90
 Flex preferred (v.90 will still work) --> +MS=K56FLEX
 v.34 only (v.90 and flex disabled) -----> +MS=V34

For Lucent chips:
 Enable v.90 ------> -V90=1
 Disable v.90 -----> -V90=0
 Enable K56flex ---> S38=1
 Disable K56flex --> S38=0

For Venus chips:
 Flex only (v.90 disabled) -----------> S109=0
 Flex or v.90 ------------------------> S109=1
 v.90 only (flex disabled) -----------> S109=2
 v.34 only (flex and v.90 disabled) --> S38=0


Whew! Hope that helps out. Have fun and happy experimenting.




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From: "Wayne Pyrah http://here.is/Wayne-Pyrah" <[e-mail]>

Hi Colin

On 14-Mar-99, you wrote:

> On 14-Mar-99, cbminfo wrote:
>> From: cbminfo <[e-mail]>
>> I once had something up and running for pdf files, either ghostscript or
> xpdf.
>> I almost had xpdf up yesterday, it seems to be the one with the best chance
> of
>> doing anything. Only trouble is it needs a stack of >=20000. And the default
>> stack is nowhere near that. I tried creating a project icon with stack 21000
>> and default tool as xpdf, but this did nothing..
>
>
> Get the XPDF stuff from aminet & then stick this attachment in
> your S: directory & set the +s bit with the protect command.
>
> When you want to view one,  just pop a shell & type:
>   ViewPDF      or      ViewPDF <file>
>
>
> If you dont have the stuff in the same place just modify the script.

I have got xpdf from Aminet and are using your script however the program does not seem to do much for me.

It opens up its window and thats about it, I can't seem to get it to play any of my pdf files, but when I close the program down in the shell box it was started from is error messages in the form of :

couldn't execute gzip -d -q t:boev0001.z

Any ideas ?

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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Andrew Crowe <[e-mail]> wrote:
>   What is all the fuss about running out of chip ram with browsers? I've
> ran IBrowse in 256 colours and a load of other stuff which left about 15%
> chip ram left, it worked fine for ages. Are you sure you've put 'Use fast
> ram for images' option on though, because if you havn't then yes, you'd
> run out very quickly

I can't find any such option in Voyager.  I assumed it cached images
in fast RAM automatically.

I bought myself a copy of IBrowse.  I've been using the demo of 1.12
in tandem with Voyager for a few weeks, and was quite impressed.  The
full version is nice; the fast RAM image caching works perfectly.  Web
pages scroll faster than in Voyager, although initial image rendering
can be a bit slower.  I'm not sure it's as forgiving of duff HTML as
Voyager is, either.  These are all side issues though; it seems more
stable than Voyager, and that's what I'm bothered about.

I went for IBrowse over AWeb because I'm not bothered about Javascript
(all the web sites I visit frequently are geek sites like Slashdot
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: making my modem go to V90 or X2 mode
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From: "Wayne Pyrah http://here.is/Wayne-Pyrah" <[e-mail]>

Hi Nano

On 23-Mar-99, you wrote:

> From: Nano <[e-mail]>
>
>> I have a Arowana modem with a Texas Instruments chipset and have managed
>> to connect at about 49000 + to most Internet providers except my local
>> one which is on Diamond Cable so my calls cost 25p an hour at evenings
>> and weekends.
>>
>> The most my modem connects at is 33600 (V34) but the number goes all the
>> way to ISDN and is 56000 compaitable however they don't know what
>> protocol Flex/V90 or X2 is being used !
>>
>> The instructions are useless and have no commands in at all so I was
>> wondering if anyone knew how to force it to use V90 or X2 so I could try
>> that.
>
> First. Here is a string I found for your modem or something very similar -
> Arowana FM-56VT. It may or may not work, but worth a try.
>
> &FM0+MS=12,1,300,56000

> Whew! Hope that helps out. Have fun and happy experimenting.
>

Thankyou so much for going to all the trouble of finding those commands for me.

However !

I am afraid that they didn't work - I either got an error message, nothing seemed to happen or the speed was reduced to 14.4k.

I have checked my modem by using the ATI commands as someone suggested to me and it appears to be an Arowana FM-56SA  Voice/Fax/Data V90/X2 modem.

Thanks for your help anyway
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Subject: [just-amiga] Re: pdf
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From: Pat Kushko <[e-mail]>

> > Get the XPDF stuff from aminet & then stick this attachment in
> > your S: directory & set the +s bit with the protect command.
> >
> > When you want to view one,  just pop a shell & type:
> >   ViewPDF      or      ViewPDF <file>
> >
> >
> > If you dont have the stuff in the same place just modify the script.
>
> I have got xpdf from Aminet and are using your script however the program does not seem to do much for me.
>
> It opens up its window and thats about it, I can't seem to get it to play any of my pdf files, but when I close the program down in the shell box it was started from is error messages in the form of :
>
> couldn't execute gzip -d -q t:boev0001.z

I finally got xpdf working, through fits & starts... I did try that file
that was passed along without much success, I didn't look into too deeply
though and the assign LibX11: part works fine, I'm not sure why the rest
failed.. stack or obscure problem, maybe.

It seems that I have gzip file on my system 4688 bytes and a
xpkGZIP.library which without a lot of thinking installed with the xpk
system of archivers and I probably toasted the original gzip. I was
plenty suspicious when the con reported

> couldn't execute gzip -d -q t:boev0001.z

So I went up on Aminet and grabbed a gzip package (save your strength,
there's a whole wack of them up, some are .tar inside the .lha just to
frustrate you one more level) so pick up gzip124x2.lha which contains the
gzip executable you need, throw it in c:

Open a shell, type Stack 100000 to be safe (the program complains if the
stack is set too low) and the Assign LibX11: path/LibX11 (if you haven't
done this already) and then type xpdf filename.pdf and it should echo
stuff and get it all running. It's quite slow... and if you don't wait
for it... moving the slider can be a diaster, and after a few pages I
found it died easy. If you check in the LibX11 dir you'll see a default
AMiga file... you can comment in or out any of the options. These might
make a bit of difference for long term operation and things like screen
type etc.. have bearing. In general if you have gotten the interface up..
you're 60% of the way.

> Any ideas ?

it can't find gzip in the search path. It's too bad that one of the DTP
packages like Pagestream doesn't support .pdf it would seem to be a
natural, but I'll bet Adobe would bring out the lawyers fast enough.

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>couldn't execute gzip -d -q t:boev0001.z

Get ahold of gzip... and stick it in C:



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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

I saw today's new Aminet uploads list, and my jaw literally dropped.
There's a port of GNU Emacs v20!

Forget all your namby-pamby editors, GNU Emacs stomps on all of them,
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Hello everybody,
     I've added a page to my web pages :)
    Can I have some feed back on how long it takes to load up,
and how it looks :)
    All answers are needed ;)
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Great, more people who don't know the difference between "hacker"
and "cracker"...  Will this misrepresentation never cease?

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>   From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>
>Subject: The Conscience of a Hacker
>
>Did anyone see that film in 1995 called Hackers, well anyway there
>was an email address in the credits so I emailed it and here is the
>full text to a bit that one of the 'hackers' quotes, whats it got to

That's probably how he wants other people to see him.
And how he would like to see himself.
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Well i emailed OFtel about free local calls and was passed onto David
Simpson. He said he will reply fully next week so we'll see what comes up
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I can't change the world :)

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From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>

Andrew,

On 21-Mar-99, you wrote:

>   your right, the german server is up. How come the UK mirror hasn't
been
> updated?

The UK server is never updated in my view. Its also slower than the
other ones, I don't know why it is there honestly.

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 AIO issue 22 has been released today 27/3/99 - I would like to
appologise for the week lateness of this issue but this was due to me,
the editor being ill. I hope what we have to offer this issue makes
up for it. Some of the highlights this issue are :-

* EXCLUSIVE AIO INTERVIEW WITH PETRO TYSCHTSCHENKO

* DOpus plus CD review

* Open letter from Petro Tyschtschenko

* Aminet moves news

* We live in interesting times article by Neil Williams

* AIO Amiga web site database

* Faction Wars diary, February

* Dream Machine Requests, Part 2

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and latest news stories.

You can download issue 22 from the following places :-

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From: Ian Ison <[e-mail]>



--- Chris Seward <[e-mail]> wrote:
> From: "Chris Seward" <[e-mail]>
>
> Did anyone see that film in 1995 called Hackers, well
> anyway there
> was an email address in the credits so I emailed it
> and here is the
> full text to a bit that one of the 'hackers' quotes,
> whats it got to

Wow Thats my Life in one chapter

At least I am not the only one who thinks like that
does hacking really make us criminals ???

by hacking i do not imply piracy but the simple editing of files to suit
your own preferences and the investigations into the phone companies and
other such Big-Brother Companies.
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Hi

On 27-Mar-99 12:57:16, Chris Seward ([e-mail]) wrote:

> The UK server is never updated in my view. Its also slower than the
> other ones, I don't know why it is there honestly.

Are you talking about doc.ic.ac.uk? What's wrong with it? It's never more
than 24 hours behind the main site, and constantly ultra fast.

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--- Stephen Williams <[e-mail]> wrote:
> From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>
>
> Great, more people who don't know the difference
> between "hacker"
> and "cracker"...  Will this misrepresentation never
> cease?
>
> -Stephen (hacker and proud)
>

I assume this was a reference to my comment about what is other peoples
definition of a hacker?

1. I do not crack games as i feel that the copy protection is there for
a reason.

so i do not consider my self as a cracker.

2. instead of commenting on my lack of knowledge why dont you actually
try to improve my knowledge and inform me what your definition of a
hacker actually is as after all that was my original request.

and Mis-quoting CS > people who consider themselves to be hackers must
have not of been able to excell in all subjects at school.

then i will admit that my school days were pathetic and thus it is my
opinion that your attendance in english literature was a little on the
low side ??? as you obviously didn`t comprehend my original request.

A sorry to all this letter may offend as it is now very much Off-Topic
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> definition of a hacker?

Nope, just a response to the original posting.  I tend to automatically
send messages like that whenever people use the word "hacker" in a
pejorative sense.  Here are my definitions anyway:

  "Hacker" == programmer;
  "Cracker" == nasty illegal computer person.

Sorry if you thought my post was intended as a flame to you, this
was not my intention.  It might be an idea for you to be _sure_
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--- Stephen Williams <[e-mail]> wrote:
> From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>
>
> Ian Ison <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > I assume this was a reference to my comment about
> what is other peoples
> > definition of a hacker?
>
> Nope, just a response to the original posting.  I
> tend to automatically
> send messages like that whenever people use the word
> "hacker" in a
> pejorative sense.  Here are my definitions anyway:
>
>   "Hacker" == programmer;
>   "Cracker" == nasty illegal computer person.
>
> Sorry if you thought my post was intended as a flame
> to you, this
> was not my intention.  It might be an idea for you to
> be _sure_
> before you flame others :-)
>
> -Stephen

Point Taken.

Sorry For The Mis-Understanding.
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Hi

On 23-Mar-99 13:59:07, * de Jong * ([e-mail]) wrote:

>> Hey! Check out this great site diagnostic tool. It's called
>> SiteInspector at http://siteinspector.linkexchange.com/

> Why not also check out http://www.websitegarage.com
> which is almost the same, except that it makes more
> heavy use of graphics (therefore a bit slower but nice anyway).

Or how about http://validator.w3c.org/ and see where you're going wrong in
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From: Larry Miller <[e-mail]>

Hi.  Has anyone had any luck at all streaming Realaudio off of the net using
their Amiga?  I have tried everything I have found out there and I have
never had any luck.  I'm convinced it's impossible.

My last attempt was RAPlay.  I followed all of the instructions but again
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Thomas Hurst <[e-mail]> wrote:
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I can!  I can!  <ahem>
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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Hi all

Do any of you use Linux/m68k on your Amigas?  Y'see, it'll soon be
new computer time for me, and I'm wondering about a BoXeR-based
system with 060 processor, Picasso-IV video card, stupid amounts of
ram, 4Gb disk and Linux/m68k as well as AmigaOS.

I'd be interested in any and all opinions about how good (or
otherwise) Linux/m68k is compared with other desktop Unices.  I'll
investigate OpenBSD or NetBSD if the general consensus is that
they're better.  Some kind of Unix is a _must_ for my next machine.
I only have enough space for one computer, so I'm not prepared to
buy an Intel box to run Linux on.  I don't want an x86-based
machine anyway.

All (informed) opinions are welcomed :-)

-Stephen



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From: "Rev. Giark To You" <[e-mail]>

On 30-Mar-99, Stephen Williams wrote:
>Do any of you use Linux/m68k on your Amigas?

Nope.

>I'd be interested in any and all opinions about how good (or
>otherwise) Linux/m68k is compared with other desktop Unices.
>All (informed) opinions are welcomed :-)

I can't comment on the 68k version of linux, but it looks to be the way to go
(linux). A linux based pc can make a good showing, unlike windoze. I've been
considering setting up linux on my system here, but I'm going to wait until
the development goes along a bit further.

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From: Paul Ferguson <[e-mail]>

Hi Stephen,

On 30-Mar-99, Stephen Williams wrote:

> Do any of you use Linux/m68k on your Amigas?

I'm trying to, yes.

>Y'see, it'll soon be
> new computer time for me, and I'm wondering about a BoXeR-based
> system with 060 processor, Picasso-IV video card, stupid amounts of
> ram, 4Gb disk and Linux/m68k as well as AmigaOS.

Lucky you !

> I'd be interested in any and all opinions about how good (or
> otherwise) Linux/m68k is compared with other desktop Unices.  I'll
> investigate OpenBSD or NetBSD if the general consensus is that
> they're better.  Some kind of Unix is a _must_ for my next machine.

I'd have to recommend one of the 2 I have here. RedHat is very popular
and so is the Debian distribution. I have Debian on the Amiga and RedHat
on an old PC box. Thus far I have no GUI on Debian (can't get X-Windows to
work but I suspect thats my lack of knowledge rather than the s/ware) and
I have X running on the PC but again thats down to a relatively easy install
setup which I don't think applies to the Amiga version but, I could be wrong
and would be happy to be proved as such ;)

> All (informed) opinions are welcomed :-)

Oh right thats me out of the running...I'll get my coat ;)

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From: Stephen Williams <[e-mail]>

Hi Paul,

>> Y'see, it'll soon be
>> new computer time for me, and I'm wondering about a BoXeR-based
>> system with 060 processor, Picasso-IV video card, stupid amounts of
>> ram, 4Gb disk and Linux/m68k as well as AmigaOS.
> Lucky you !

I've been saving those pennies :-)  and if the BoXeR motherboard
is released soon, I'll be able to buy a new system in the summer.

> I'd have to recommend one of the 2 I have here. RedHat is very popular
> and so is the Debian distribution. I have Debian on the Amiga and RedHat
> on an old PC box.

I've been reading about Debian.  The m68k port of Linux is part of the
official Debian package, which is why I favour it over Red Hat, which
doesn't support m68k officially.

There's an installation guide on the Debian web site, and a shorter
one on the Linux/m68k web site (www.debian.org and www.linux-m68k.org
respectively).  The installation doesn't look too scary.  Mind you,
it's probably worse when you actually _try_ it...

> Thus far I have no GUI on Debian (can't get X-Windows to
> work but I suspect thats my lack of knowledge rather than the s/ware)

It's down to the fact that X11 is a real pig to configure.  Are you
trying to make it work for AGA, or for a video card?  If you get
it going, I'd be interested in copies of your config files if you're
willing to give them away :-)

How much disk space have you given Linux?  How have you partitioned
your disk?  I was thinking of about 200Mb for /, around a gigabyte
for /usr, 50Mb for /home (since I will be the only user) and 64Mb
of swap space.

Thanks for your input and opinions,

-Stephen



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From: Paul Ferguson <[e-mail]>

Hi Stephen,

On 01-Apr-99, Stephen Williams wrote:

[New Computer]

> I've been saving those pennies :-)  and if the BoXeR motherboard
> is released soon, I'll be able to buy a new system in the summer.

I wish I could find pennies to save ! Still, never mind it's understandable
that I don't as I have a family and all the trimmings mortgage etc
Then again, if I keep hitting the overtime...who knows :)

> I've been reading about Debian.  The m68k port of Linux is part of the
> official Debian package, which is why I favour it over Red Hat, which
> doesn't support m68k officially.

Looks like you researched it more than I did :)

> There's an installation guide on the Debian web site, and a shorter
> one on the Linux/m68k web site (www.debian.org and www.linux-m68k.org
> respectively).  The installation doesn't look too scary.  Mind you,
> it's probably worse when you actually _try_ it...

I've done the install and no, it's not too bad (same can be said for
RedHat 5.2 on the PC). It's the adding bits afterwards I'm having trouble
with :(

>> Thus far I have no GUI on Debian (can't get X-Windows to
>> work but I suspect thats my lack of knowledge rather than the s/ware)

> It's down to the fact that X11 is a real pig to configure.  Are you
> trying to make it work for AGA, or for a video card?  If you get
> it going, I'd be interested in copies of your config files if you're
> willing to give them away :-)

If I ever get it to go you are more than welcome to the files.

> How much disk space have you given Linux?  How have you partitioned
> your disk?  I was thinking of about 200Mb for /, around a gigabyte
> for /usr, 50Mb for /home (since I will be the only user) and 64Mb
> of swap space.

Er...on the Debain (Amiga) IIRC I gave it something like 25 meg swap
and 600 for root (I honestly can't remember !) On the PC I overwrote
the Windows partition so that would give swap about 150 and RedHat
around the 500 mark I think.

> Thanks for your input and opinions,

No problem..not much help though was I ? ;)

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Does anyone remember the demo of Cannon Fodder from an old Amiga
Format, it also had a game called Cannon Soccer where you killed the
Sensible Soccer players like a Cannon Fodder style game. They came
on these see through red and green disks. Does anyone know if you
can buy these see through disks anymore? I bought some from a
computer show about 4 years ago but as the big Amiga shows don't
run anymore any idea if anyone sells them?

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Does anyone know if you can buy space on a shell in the UK, they all
seem to be in the US which is to much hastle for me. If possible the
server should already have IRC, telnet and eggdrop pre-installed.
Honestly any shells in the uk would do?

My next question is does anyone have a program to spoof your IP
on irc? i want to do a trick on a friend and need to spoof my IP? there
are programs on the PC for this but not the Amiga, any help appreciated!

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From: Chris Seward <[e-mail]>

Ok sorry again but as you might have read I've had an offer for web
space with the registered domain. We need £30 more that is all,
so far 7 people have donated money so if you can help now would be
a great time. The people who have entered already have a 1 in 7
chance of winning and for aprx £86 UKP worth of items these are good
odds. You can donate from any country with any currency, if you
live outside the UK then please only send notes (at your own risk)
if you live in the uk then you can send a cheque payable to 'C.Brown'

£5 is the smallest donation you can make to be entered into the
competition or the following :-

20 DM, 15 Fl. 12 US$. - We except any currency.

If you would like to know what the prize is please email me direct at,
[e-mail]

Thankyou for your support and the prize will be drawn very soon!

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